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Systems for NON-Power users?
Thanks to everyone who posts here. I've been learning tons!
As I read about the "best" systems for PTLE, there's a lot of talk about overclocking and quad core processors, and Dverb counts approaching 300! By comparison, I imagine that my needs are relatively modest. The MOST I can IMAGINE doing is 24ish audio tracks with some EQ, Compression, and maybe 3 or 4 reverbs/mods, BFD 1.5, and 2 or 3 virtual synths. How much power (Processor, RAM, etc) do I really need for this level of work? Thanks in advance! Dave |
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Re: Systems for NON-Power users?
If you plan on using version 7 or newer, get at least a dual core as the cost saving is insignificant. Check out the thread on Best Desktops and look at the "under $600 system" for a start. Or build what I built below and maybe substitute a cheaper x2 cpu like the 5000+, or a non-SLI version of that motherboard as you do not need SLI. You want plenty of RAM for virtual instruments so I would go with 4gig. Windows may only see 3.2-3.5gig but RAM is so cheap right now that its a no-brainer. Don't forget you need 2 hard drives(1 for system and 1 for sessions) and avoid on-board video motherboards.
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Re: Systems for NON-Power users?
Build Allbee's machine, also price out a budget Core 2 Duo system that you can upgrade to a Quad later. You should be able to upgrade Allbees board to a Phenom Quad core in a couple of months but it really cheaper to buy your CPU only once.
The Intel Quad chip is about 70.00 more money than a Core 2 Duo so its kind off a tossup as to which would be better. 4GB of RAM or 2 more cores? Virtual Instruments or Plugins? You would have to search out obsolete stuff to build a "Non-Power" computer right now. The low end of the midrange is priced mainstream and its a great time to build. Do you have any parts you can migrate to the new build? case? PSU? HDDS? CD Drives? Whats your budget?
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Re: Systems for NON-Power users?
Thanks for the response.
I've got a Sonata case/PSU, one IDE drive and 2 SATA drives that I can re-use, but I have to buy new RAM because the old stuff (DDR-1) can't be used on newer Mobos. I also need to buy a new video card because new Mobos don't take AGP. I wan't planning to have to replace anything, but my Mobo went south, and now I have to come up with a replacement (+Processor, +RAM, +Video) The whole thing will put me out $300-$500 depending on the choices I make. (And this is a hobby for me...) That said, I'm considering the E6750, but the E4500 is $80 less. This seems like a good chunk of change at the moment, but I don't want to buy junk, and I don't want to regret being cheap later. The general sense I'm getting is that it's better to bite the bullet now, since, as you say, it's a good time to build. In practical terms, though, what's difference between a Core 2 Duo running at 2.2 and one running at 2.66? Thanks again. Your advice is really helpful to me. |
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Re: Systems for NON-Power users?
Thanks for this advice.
As I compare the AMD and Intel processors, are the numbers (e.g. X2 6400 vs. E6750) good indicators of performance? |
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Re: Systems for NON-Power users?
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There is a Core 2 board that will take your current DDR memory and AGP Video card. A DUC member named Vocal VooDoo built one with a Core 2 Duo and it ran PT OK, It wasn't as powerful as the P965, 975X and P35 stuff but its cheap. If you look at the board as a temporary platform to migrate your existing parts too and then upgrade to a PCIe video card and DDR2 as you can buy them on sale its not so bad. At 59.99 you could buy this board and a Q6600 . Ultimately you would want to replace the board with something in the 100.00-125.00 range and migrate the PCIe and DDR2 that you purchased cheap along the way. I only mention it because its may a good option for you. As far as I know no one one the DUC has built this board with a Q6600 but its qualified for the Quad by ASROCK so you shouldn't have any problems there. There is also a DUC member named Obscura (Spelling?) that has a Quad running on a 89.00 ASUS VM series mATX board running integrated graphics that is running just fine. I don't have the exact board number but can check my old emails when I get home this weekend. Any Asus board of of the Core 2 Dverb list should work-there are a couple of boards to be had around 125.00. Couple this with a Core 2 Duo and you will have a nice system. You can use Allbee's board which is around 125.00 or so with a AMD X2 processor also. It won't perform quite as well as the Core 2 stuff but should be more than adequate. I'm fairly sure you can update that to a AMD quad once the Phenom's TLB issue is fixed in late spring. The later 2 options would require the immediate purchase of DDR2 and a PCIe Video card. The first option should best be viewed with the board as being semi disposable and just a stepping stone to a better motherboard down the road. The hidden lining would be you could take the ASRock, your old DDR and AGP video card and build a nice email machine for surfing the web simply by snagging any socket 775 processor of of eBay and a old hard drive. Nothings wasted Your final option would be to pickup a replacement mobo for your existing board of ebay. Your options are actually pretty good.
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