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Old 04-29-2009, 05:11 PM
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Default firewire 800 - digi 003

Hey there.

I'm currently in the maze of Mac, trying to figure out exactly what I can achieve now that these people have removed the firewire 400 ports on their new computers.

I'm looking at the aluminium macbook pros on the refurbished section of the apple website, and these do apparently have a firewire 800 port.

to be absolutely certain, i can use a convertor to plug my 003 into these things???

i also daisy chain a couple of firewire 400 hard drives after the 003. i assume this will also be possible. (ie. mac -> 003 -> hard drive -> hard drive).

kind regards, oscar

003R, iMac G5 Power PC, need a new rig
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: firewire 800 - digi 003

Yes you can use a 400-800 converter.

You should not have the drives after the 003. The 003 should be last.

If you have multiple FW drives running on a laptop, you might seriously want to get a FW400 Express card. That will increase your FW bandwidth and reduce the daisy-chaining.

There is a page that Digitech support linked that explains all this stuff very clearly.. I'll try to find it..
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:12 PM
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http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?...5&itemid=36933

About half way down.. Under "Configuring Newer Mac Models with FireWire 800 Ports"
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: firewire 800 - digi 003

My config is MacBook Pro FW800 -> extern HD FW 800-> HD's FW400 -> 003R FW400.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:28 AM
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Default Re: firewire 800 - digi 003

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My config is MacBook Pro FW800 -> extern HD FW 800-> HD's FW400 -> 003R FW400.
This is the best daisy chain so far in this post. :)
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: firewire 800 - digi 003

Forgive if I am out of line, could some explain to me what you mean by the Digi 003 should be last in line in the firewire chain.
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:42 AM
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Forgive if I am out of line, could some explain to me what you mean by the Digi 003 should be last in line in the firewire chain.
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FW in general the speed of the DEVICE is determined by the speed of what it is connected to. When mixing FW400 and FW800 you want your FW800 first in the chain connected to a FW800 port. That way they run at their full speed. Then connect your FW400 devices because they will slowdown the rest of the chain to FW400 speed.

The has nothing to do with Digi that is how FW works.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: firewire 800 - digi 003

a little off topic but similar...has anyone noticed a jump in performance from a 400FW Drive to a 800FW Drive? Just got a new mac mini and owc FW800 drive and it works fantastic..just not sure if I do large enough projects to notice.

But if Im correct it sounds like you are getting double the transfer speed if the Hard Drive supports it.

I guess my point is...since the workarounds seem easily implemented, maybe the move to FW800 was not such a bad choice by apple.

Maybe someone did some testing in advanced and realized it wouldn't be that big of a deal, and forced hardware and audio makers to move forward.

Someone had to get the ball rolling...
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:46 AM
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FW in general the speed of the DEVICE is determined by the speed of what it is connected to. When mixing FW400 and FW800 you want your FW800 first in the chain connected to a FW800 port. That way they run at their full speed. Then connect your FW400 devices because they will slowdown the rest of the chain to FW400 speed.

The has nothing to do with Digi that is how FW works.
It should also be noted that when both fw800 and fw400 devices are connected on the same bus (daisy chained or the common internal bus on all built-in fw ports in a Macbook Pro), they will all run at the slower speed fw400. In other words the fw800 hard drive will run at fw400 speeds bcause there is a fw400 drive daisy chained as well as the fw400 Digi300. If you use an expresscard firewire adapter, that will be a separate bus from the built-in ports and therefore you can have fw800 speeds on one bus while the other runs at fw400.
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: firewire 800 - digi 003

forgive my lack of intelligence on this subject, but when you say first in the chain, what do you mean, is to connect it first or does it has to do with where it is connected on the CPU.
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