Splitting midi regions and midi notes

[Calon]

Can somebody please explain the relationship between midi regions and midi notes in PT LE. When you separate a midi region ( in region view) it doesn't separate the midi notes as well. This is totally different to any other DAW I've used eg Reason, Cubase, Ableton. In those progs when split a clip you end up with 2 distinct clips, eg say u split a four bar chord in the middle you end up with 2x 2 bar chords with the midi notes neatly split as well. But to do that in PTLE you need a 2 stage process where you separate the midi notes first ( in notes view) and then split the region in region view. Why does PT behave like this, what is the advantage of it? If you just split the region in region view the midi notes are left extending beyond the first region and the second region has no data at all. Is there a way to split the region and the notes at the same time ? Thanks.

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by Calon

Can somebody please explain the relationship between midi regions and midi notes in PT LE. When you separate a midi region ( in region view) it doesn't separate the midi notes as well. This is totally different to any other DAW I've used eg Reason, Cubase, Ableton. In those progs when split a clip you end up with 2 distinct clips, eg say u split a four bar chord in the middle you end up with 2x 2 bar chords with the midi notes neatly split as well. But to do that in PTLE you need a 2 stage process where you separate the midi notes first ( in notes view) and then split the region in region view. Why does PT behave like this, what is the advantage of it? If you just split the region in region view the midi notes are left extending beyond the first region and the second region has no data at all. Is there a way to split the region and the notes at the same time ? Thanks.

PT does this (as does Digital Performer) because it works in whole notes - in order to select a note you have to select the whole note. There is no way to split the region and notes at the same time. As to why PT and DP do this and what the advantage is - I have no idea.

[Calon]

Originally Posted by musicman691

PT does this (as does Digital Performer) because it works in whole notes - in order to select a note you have to select the whole note. There is no way to split the region and notes at the same time. As to why PT and DP do this and what the advantage is - I have no idea.

Thanks for that. Is it still the same in the latest version of PT as well?

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by Calon

Thanks for that. Is it still the same in the latest version of PT as well?

I don't have PT12 but I'm sure it still works the same way. Avid wouldn't change something like that and if they did I'm sure people here would be on it like stink on cheese.

[TOM@METRO]

We have been asking for a preference on this since forever. Yes,12 is the same.

[Calon]

Originally Posted by TOM@METRO

We have been asking for a preference on this since forever. Yes,12 is the same.

It seems incredible you can't do such a simple thing in one go, they could just add a "split region and notes" command to the edit menu, probably 10 mins of a PT developer's time.

[TOM@METRO]

Originally Posted by Calon

It seems incredible you can't do such a simple thing in one go, they could just add a "split region and notes" command to the edit menu, probably 10 mins of a PT developer's time.

I kinda' feel the same way, but there may well be aspects of this that are more troublesome than we know.

It would sure be nice to see this happen though. I've been fighting with this limitation for many years.

Perhaps the appropriate Avid manager could chime in here.

[Calon]

Originally Posted by TOM@METRO

I kinda' feel the same way, but there may well be aspects of this that are more troublesome than we know.

It would sure be nice to see this happen though. I've been fighting with this limitation for many years.

Perhaps the appropriate Avid manager could chime in here.

Ableton's approach to midi editing is very elegant, showing the note name on the midi note is v nice too, Ableton and Cubase both do this.

[SomeOtherGuy]

This thread relates to the one I created today. Is there no way Avid will give us this pref?