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Old 02-13-2020, 10:34 PM
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I'm a hobbyist too. I recently got back into making music and I'm absolutely loving the creative energy coming out of me. I love pro tools. Im so used to it that I can get really creative without thinking much about the ins and outs of the software. I've tried Cubase, logic, studio one and Ableton. None of them makes any sense to me. I'm sure if I spend enough time with the other programs I'd learn it.... but I just don't have to time and creative energy is so valuable... once it's gone...
When the perpetual license price went up to 200 I was pretty pissed, but I still would have payed. But aren't they getting rid of perpetual licenses? If thats true then yes... Im gonna have to really start learning another daw. Ill still use whatever version of pro tools I have but I'm not gonna rent this software.
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Old 02-14-2020, 05:07 AM
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I'm a hobbyist too. I recently got back into making music and I'm absolutely loving the creative energy coming out of me. I love pro tools. Im so used to it that I can get really creative without thinking much about the ins and outs of the software. I've tried Cubase, logic, studio one and Ableton. None of them makes any sense to me. I'm sure if I spend enough time with the other programs I'd learn it.... but I just don't have to time and creative energy is so valuable... once it's gone...
When the perpetual license price went up to 200 I was pretty pissed, but I still would have payed. But aren't they getting rid of perpetual licenses? If thats true then yes... Im gonna have to really start learning another daw. Ill still use whatever version of pro tools I have but I'm not gonna rent this software.
Avid is still selling perpetual licenses and near as I know those will still exist. What doesn't exist as perpetual is support/upgrade.

Back when there was just murmurs of Avid going sub-only (thankfully they haven't) I started working with MOTU's Digital Performer. Interesting program and relatively light on cpu usage. Certain aspects of the gui are changeable by the end user if you know what you're doing. As I worked with it, giving it an honest try, I really started having issues with some of the workings of DP. For instance instrument tracks as we know them from PT don't exist in DP although there is what they call an instrument track. All it does is host a vi but no MIDI lie in PT. Small alphanumerics. Overly busy gui which takes it's toll on the video card (jumpy then playing a session on the same machine that I can play PT sessions that have more to them).

Upshot is I keep it around to work on stuff I did in it. I am slowly transferring over even those sessions to PT. Late last year I swallowed hard and paid the $299 reinstatement fee to go from PT 11.3.2 to PT 2019.6 and I don't regret it. Will I keep paying that yearly tax? Yes as long as it'll still run on my computer. PT is an old friend I don't want to leave behind.
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Old 02-14-2020, 05:50 AM
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I got a call from Avid (yes, a shock) the other day. Didn’t recognize the number and let it go to voicemail. When I called back, it was a guy at a call center offering to reinstate the service for one of my perpetual HD licenses for $100. Didn’t want the offer because I get a better deal as an ALP instructor. Just wondering if anyone else is getting calls from Avid.


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Old 02-14-2020, 08:02 AM
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I got a call from Avid (yes, a shock) the other day. Didn’t recognize the number and let it go to voicemail. When I called back, it was a guy at a call center offering to reinstate the service for one of my perpetual HD licenses for $100. Didn’t want the offer because I get a better deal as an ALP instructor. Just wondering if anyone else is getting calls from Avid.


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If that’s true, I would have done it and flipped the license.

$100 is VERY cheap for an Ultimate license.


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Old 02-14-2020, 10:19 AM
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If that’s true, I would have done it and flipped the license.

$100 is VERY cheap for an Ultimate license.


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I'm not sure they were offering an upgrade, perhaps only a service contract. I would't be able to flip it anyway, because it's technically owned by my school.

Fwiw, I have a great deal with Avid though the Avid Learning Partner program.
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:06 PM
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I like pro tools, hate when the glitches happen for no reason and no change to system and now this crappy billing. I am just a hobby guy I dont make money at this... I was told to check out studio one. I dont want to jump ship but sometimes I get aggravated with avid...


...been using PT first as a student first than for work for nearly 20years and I tend to get fedup with it more and more. Past year we invested for our main studio into a brand new HDX system with a Goliath HD and it’s not been a clean ride at all. Keeping track with our supplier of all issues, I even pay them to research and solve but so far the list keeps growing. Sure a third party converter, that ‘ll never run smooth, but mann midi issues that ‘ve been there for 10years, editing issues, grouped tracks sliding heavily out of sync while duplicating. It’s really sorry that when we sit down at lunch and are chatting about our DAWS (studio 2 and 3 run cubase and nuendo) and notice how much lightyears they’re ahead. Avid is not listening at all. It’s sad to see, hear and notice.


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