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Re: Avid Core Audio with HDX/HD Native on Yosemite/later Mac OS
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But let me understand. You can have Pro tools HD software open with playback engine HD Driver, and have the audio midi setup using the same hardware for you using listen Spotify, Soundminer, iTunes, etc... Is that it? Or you're using the Pro tools aggregate device where the HD Driver is there and in the Pro tools you can select that aggregate device and use all those app at the same time? (I never ever used the Avid core audio, I always used a digital cable from my mac pro to my optical spdif in of my Interface, and I can have Pro tools open, and all the other 3rd party apps at the same time. And even with PT Closed, HD omni have a offline mixer where you can route spdif to you main Monitor and Headphones) Check Image But yet, it nice that Avid is doing this tweaks to the new driver.
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Re: Avid Core Audio with HDX/HD Native on Yosemite/later Mac OS
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Like you, I´ve been going digital from the mac to to the Omni interface in order to monitor offline. This works great on the Omni interface since it has that feature. However, I also have a HDX system with 192´s, which doesn't have that feature. In order to monitor Spotify, I have to use an aux input in Pro Tools. This is workable, but it would be so much more convenient if Spotify (or any other app) and Pro Tools could share the same physical output. I guess it could be argued that this is some sort of safety net which stops other apps from interfering with what's coming from Pro Tools. But it would be nice to have a choice . Stein Tore
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Re: Avid Core Audio with HDX/HD Native on Yosemite/later Mac OS
Wow, strange considering the HD Driver isn't multi client yet. Will have to try this!!
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Re: Avid Core Audio with HDX/HD Native on Yosemite/later Mac OS
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I've tested it. You loose all the DSP that your cards could use, it's using only i/o nothing more, no delay compensation for i/o in HD native, no 256 voices meter in system usage. The HD Omni in this mode it's Orange instead of Green as usual. It's nice, but my trusty digital cable FOR ME it's the best choice :) But thanks for the tip. And I'm using PT 12.7.1 even if I'd like to use I couldn't ehehe about HDX It could be that the card is more difficult to coding and bypass everything in DSP to only let pass audio without passing/using any DSP. Cheers
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Re: Avid Core Audio with HDX/HD Native on Yosemite/later Mac OS
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But the good news for me having PT open while playing 3rd party audio is not a requirement for me I just close PT
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Re: Avid Core Audio with HDX/HD Native on Yosemite/later Mac OS
Hey it’s Avid !!! You always have to pay 🤣🤣🤣
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Re: Avid Core Audio with HDX/HD Native on Yosemite/later Mac OS
Not sure if anyone from AVID even reads this forum anymore, but if they do, I'd love to revive this thread and get an answer to why we still can't simultaneously use macOS Core Audio (System Audio) through an HDX card while Pro Tools is also open? Is it because of the DSP usage?
What is strange is that if I use Ableton or Logic I am able to use my HDX card as the output / audio interface and can also simultaneously run system audio through the HDX card. As soon as you open Pro Tools though, the AVID HDX soundcard is no longer seen by the computer. It's such a disappointment and seems like something AVID could easily address in the software if other DAWS are capable of doing this; can someone from AVID help me understand why this happens?
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Re: Avid Core Audio with HDX/HD Native on Yosemite/later Mac OS
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I don't think coreaudio offers any functionality for DSP integration directly into DAW software. As a result, HDX uses a totally different driver to do it which is why it disappears from system sounds when Pro Tools is launched. As far as I am aware, this is the way all DAWs with integrated DSP work (Pro Tools HDX, UA Luna, Blackmagic Resolve CC-2, etc). The flip side of this conversation is that no coreaudio based audio interface with DSP will integrate into a DAW in the same way HDX does. They all use coreaudio drivers for the DAW application, but rely on an additional application like RME Totalmix or Metric Halo MIO to access DSP-based monitoring.
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Re: Avid Core Audio with HDX/HD Native on Yosemite/later Mac OS
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This was completely resolved in ~6 months via HD Driver updates. For your issues, the latest PT version solves this by allowing all your "other" apps to play through Pro Tools via AUX I/O. The reason you wouldn't ever want each of these DAW's to be able to simultaneously play out of HDX is that an Active Pro Tools Session via HDX hardware NEEDS to control the Clock Source and Sample Rate. Leaving this open to AudioMIDI Setup to change willy nilly as you open more and more applications would invariably lead to your Pro Tools Session crashing. Since Pro Tools #1 function is to record and stay in record regardless of all other "computing" occurring elsewhere on the system, it needs to protect it's software and hardware from having the clock source "taken over". HDX systems are built to optionally include SYNC Hardware, which is not controllable by any of these "other" apps, so there would always be a conflict if they could all access the same hardware but NOT control the clock source settings. AUX I/O finally allows us to use ALL these other apps WITHIN the Pro Tools environment, and in a much more powerful way, just like they added Workspace to not only add a built-in "Finder" inside Pro Tools, but to then blow the roof off the functionality generally associated with the standard apple Finder "app"!
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