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Old 10-26-2008, 03:05 PM
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Hi all,

I appreciate all the help here. This forum is great.

I have all my gear running on balanced technical power which by design eliminates ground noise issues. So i doubt that AC line noise is the culprit here. Balanced power has historically resolved many ac and grounding issues that I used to suffer from back in the day.
You can read more here http://svconline.com/mag/avinstall_o...alanced_power/
If the fader cycle mode doesn't help, get a wrist grounding strap and attach it to a metal part of the chassis and see if it makes any difference, Balanced power is great for ground loo issues but the ground issue that might be working here relates to the way the fader caps sense the touch of your finger by reading your skin capacitance.(just try to move a fader with your fingernail).
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:31 AM
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Hi!
I've been through the fighting fader issue. In my case, after thouroughly ruling out all other possible causes (mains, earth, caps, humidity, floor, shoes, chair, astrology, etc...), I ended up getting the cleaning kit and opening the unit.
It is simply a question of dirt. The inside of the faders was relatively clean, but it turns out the "touch track" of the fader is *extremely* sensitive to dirt. even the thinnest nanoscopic layer of dust seems to affect touch sensitivity. Once cleaned, the faders worked perfectly again.
PS: I once cleaned the faders on a Command-8 that was acting up, and the faders were WAAAAY much dirtier. I even wondered how they still had been working.
The dust cover is a great idea, I recommend it to all users.
You can contact me for detailed cleaning tips, I have painful experience.
Good luck!
I really need help with our D-command. I have one fader that lost it's touch sensitivity.
nucelar>> Can you PM me with the cleaning tips? I think that would really help!

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Old 09-28-2010, 03:07 AM
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Hi cineast, I can't figure out how to PM you, please write me at cvilad-at-gmail-dot-com.
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Last edited by nucelar; 09-28-2010 at 03:08 AM. Reason: correct email now
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:48 AM
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Hi

I know this is an ongoing issue and it has been for us with our unit but after I had tried endless fader cycle runs and cleaning with compressed air (with some but not total success) a colleague had the idea of rocking the fader caps gently from side to side (not back and forth). To my great surprise this has vastly improved things and although the odd fader drops out this "waggling" has provided a viable (and free) fix.

I think some people may have more serious issues with their faders but in our case it has sorted out a long term problem (around 8 faders on a 24 fader unit fighting, but not always the same ones).

Insultingly simple but try it. It might just work...
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Old 10-04-2010, 09:48 AM
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I had a dust cover made with little velcro tabs, and I lay this cloth over the D-Command including the meter bridge every night when I am done. This helps keep the faders clean.
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Old 10-04-2010, 06:25 PM
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FWIW- I had this problem (I started this thread) and Digi tech support provided a solution that fixed the problem for good. I have not had a single problem since then. Call them.
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:27 AM
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FWIW- I had this problem (I started this thread) and Digi tech support provided a solution that fixed the problem for good. I have not had a single problem since then. Call them.
In a nutshell, what was the solution?
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:29 AM
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Hi!
I've been through the fighting fader issue. In my case, after thouroughly ruling out all other possible causes (mains, earth, caps, humidity, floor, shoes, chair, astrology, etc...), I ended up getting the cleaning kit and opening the unit.
It is simply a question of dirt. The inside of the faders was relatively clean, but it turns out the "touch track" of the fader is *extremely* sensitive to dirt. even the thinnest nanoscopic layer of dust seems to affect touch sensitivity. Once cleaned, the faders worked perfectly again.
PS: I once cleaned the faders on a Command-8 that was acting up, and the faders were WAAAAY much dirtier. I even wondered how they still had been working.
The dust cover is a great idea, I recommend it to all users.
You can contact me for detailed cleaning tips, I have painful experience.
Good luck!
Hmmmm how easy would it be to clear a D Command? I having persistent grief with fighting faders!
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:17 PM
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get the new carbon faders
the original plastic are no good
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:54 AM
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Carbon faders were the fix for me. No problems since then.
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