High Spec PC not coping with simple sessions

[Hedleyk]

Up untill recently I've been running Pro tools of of a laptop and CPU, H/W buffer, and disk speed errors were somthing far too farmilliar.
So I've recently forked out for a new PC that I've put together myself.
It has a phenom II X6 3.3GHz proccesser , 2x4Gb RAM and a 64Gb SSD. and I'm running it on Windows 7 Pro 64bit.

But now after using the system for just a short period of time I'm getting the old familiar error messages again.

I've tried tweaking the H/W buffer, CPU, processor options, only succeeding in triggering one of the alternative error messages.

I'm only running 8.0.5 LE and this system should be able to more than handle it, yet it's profforming the same as my old laptop (if not slightly worse)

If any one has any ideas/ suggestions I'd be very greatfull.

Thanks,
Hedley

[Hedleyk]

Also I'd like to add that every other aspect the PC is working very well. starting up in a couple of seconds, copying files in the blink of an eye etc. as you'd expect from an SSD/ fast processor.

[albee1952]

In a similar boat myself, but with a completely different computer. Without a Sandra report, nobody will have much help to offer.
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[musicman691]

Originally Posted by Hedleyk

Up untill recently I've been running Pro tools of of a laptop and CPU, H/W buffer, and disk speed errors were somthing far too farmilliar.
So I've recently forked out for a new PC that I've put together myself.
It has a phenom II X6 3.3GHz proccesser , 2x4Gb RAM and a 64Gb SSD. and I'm running it on Windows 7 Pro 64bit.

But now after using the system for just a short period of time I'm getting the old familiar error messages again.

I've tried tweaking the H/W buffer, CPU, processor options, only succeeding in triggering one of the alternative error messages.

I'm only running 8.0.5 LE and this system should be able to more than handle it, yet it's profforming the same as my old laptop (if not slightly worse)

If any one has any ideas/ suggestions I'd be very greatfull.

Thanks,
Hedley

Just noticed a few things you haven't mentioned:
Are you recording to a different drive than your system drive?
If so, is that drive FW? PT doesn't support working with USB drives.
Again, if you are working with a second hd, what is the drive speed? Typical laptop speed drives of 5400 RPM are no good; you need 7200 RPM or better. And no 'green' drives either that allow the drive speed to follow work load or spin down and sleep.
Speaking of sleep - don't allow your computer to sleep.

[albee1952]

Originally Posted by musicman691

Just noticed a few things you haven't mentioned:
Are you recording to a different drive than your system drive?
If so, is that drive FW? PT doesn't support working with USB drives.
Again, if you are working with a second hd, what is the drive speed? Typical laptop speed drives of 5400 RPM are no good; you need 7200 RPM or better. And no 'green' drives either that allow the drive speed to follow work load or spin down and sleep.
Speaking of sleep - don't allow your computer to sleep.

Actually, not entirely accurate. Windows 7 systems SHOULD use USB2 and should NOT use firewire. +1 for the rest of that post. If its a desktop system, adding an internal drive is cheapest and nets the best performance. Still waiting for the Sandra report.........................

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by albee1952

Actually, not entirely accurate. Windows 7 systems SHOULD use USB2 and should NOT use firewire. +1 for the rest of that post. If its a desktop system, adding an internal drive is cheapest and nets the best performance. Still waiting for the Sandra report.........................

Not to go sideways with this thread but could you explain why Win7 machines should use USB2 instead of FW? Particularly if the machine has FW800 and not FW400. Every other OS (Win or Mac) FW is usually the better choice.

Oops - just saw the compatibility list for Windows and Avid does say to use USB. I still wonder why that is so.

[albee1952]

Originally Posted by musicman691

Not to go sideways with this thread but could you explain why Win7 machines should use USB2 instead of FW? Particularly if the machine has FW800 and not FW400. Every other OS (Win or Mac) FW is usually the better choice.

Oops - just saw the compatibility list for Windows and Avid does say to use USB. I still wonder why that is so.

From what I have read, it boils down to the USB2(the 2 being important) and firewire drivers for Windows 7. The USB drivers got better, but the firewire drivers got worse. There has been some confusion regarding firewire interfaces on Win7 as well. Mostly, Avid recommends the Legacy driver, but on my systems(all 3), that driver turns the 003 controller into a goofy looking midi note generator(each button plays a sound on a VI plugin). The only driver that works for me is the TI Compliant driver(for the 003). I record to internal SATA drives almost exclusively, and use my externals(USB and firewire) for backups, transfers and archives only. Internal SATA and eSATA will net the best performance over ANY USB or firewire.

[Hedleyk]

Hi, Sorry for getting back to you so late.

Here is the Sandra Report


SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Model : OEM To be filled by O.E.M.
Workgroup : WORKGROUP
Host Name : HedleyKnightsPC
User : Hedley Knights

Processor
Model : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
Speed : 3.31GHz
Cores per Processor : 6 Unit(s)
Type : Six-Core
L1D (1st Level) Data Cache : 6x 64kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size
L2 (2nd Level) Cache : 6x 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size
L3 (3rd Level) Cache : 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 48-way, 64 byte line size, 6 threads sharing

Computer
Mainboard : ASUS M5A97
BIOS : AMI (OEM) 0705 08/22/2011
Bus(es) : X-Bus PCI PCIe USB i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : No
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3

Chipset
Model : AMD F10 Athlon 64/Opteron/Sempron HT Hub
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 1.79GHz (3.58GHz)
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 597MHz (1.2GHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Patriot Memory 1333LLA Series 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Patriot Memory 1333LLA Series 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5)

Video System
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 210 (16 SM4.1 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR2 810MHz 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)
Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 210 (16 SM4.1 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR2 810MHz 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
OpenCL GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 210 (16SP 2C 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR2 810MHz 128-bit)
Compute Shader Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 210 (16SP 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR2 810MHz 128-bit)
CUDA GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 210 (16SP 2C 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR2 810MHz 128-bit)

Storage Devices
KINGSTON SV100S264G (64GB, SATA300, 2.5", SSD) : 60GB (C:)
Seagate ST9500424AS (500.1GB, USB2/SATA300, 2.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache) : 466GB (G:)
Seagate ST9500325AS (500.1GB, USB2/SATA150, 2.5", 5400rpm, 8MB Cache) : 466GB (E:)
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-222AB (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (D:)
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-222AB (/SATA150) : N/A (H:)

Logical Storage Devices
Hard Disk : 100MB (NTFS)
Expansion (G:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST9500424AS (500.1GB, USB2/SATA300, 2.5", 7200rpm, 16MB Cache)
Backup (E:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST9500325AS (500.1GB, USB2/SATA150, 2.5", 5400rpm, 8MB Cache)
Hard Disk (C:) : 60GB (NTFS) @ KINGSTON SV100S264G (64GB, SATA300, 2.5", SSD)
Optical Drive (D:) : N/A @ TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-222AB (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)
Optical Drive (H:) : N/A @ TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-222AB (/SATA150)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : ATI (AMD) IXP SB600/700/800 SMBUS Controller
LPC Hub Controller 2 : ATI (AMD) SB700/800 LPC host controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T2 87-21
Audio Device : ASUS IXP SB600 High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Codec : Realtek Semi High Definition Audio
Audio Device : ASUS High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Codec : nVidia 000Bh
Audio Codec : nVidia 000Bh
Audio Codec : nVidia 000Bh
Serial Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : ASUS SB700/800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
USB Controller 1 : ATI (AMD) SB700/800 USB OHCI0 Controller
USB Controller 2 : ATI (AMD) SB700/800 USB EHCI Controller
USB Controller 3 : ATI (AMD) SB700/800 USB OHCI0 Controller
USB Controller 4 : ATI (AMD) SB700/800 USB EHCI Controller
USB Controller 5 : ATI (AMD) SB700/800 USB OHCI2 Controller
USB Controller 6 : ATI (AMD) SB700/800 USB OHCI0 Controller
USB Controller 7 : ATI (AMD) SB700/800 USB EHCI Controller
USB Controller 8 : ASUS ASMedia XHCI Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : ATI SB800 SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Fax : Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

Network Services
Network Adapter : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.01.7600
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 4.8

Performance Enhancing Tips
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

[Hedleyk]

Hope that's what you wanted,
also I'm using the one ssd on the pc, no external drives.

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by Hedleyk

Hope that's what you wanted,
also I'm using the one ssd on the pc, no external drives.

There's part of the problem - you need to get at least one more drive as PT doesn't really support working with just the system c: drive. Partitioning won't help - you need another physical drive.