Waves StudioRack - example of good plugin chain presets implementation in Pro Tools

[jacko]

Well, people have asked for plugin chain presets in Pro Tools since the beginning of time. And here we have it - although for Waves plugins only, the way it works is really nice. Automation works, cmnd+ctrl+click on parameters works, Preview / Capture works. After several hours of testing it is very usable with no noticeable issues. It greatly enhances workflow in Pro Tools for people that rely mainly on Waves plugins.

I think this could be the way Avid might implement plugin chain presets. Think: a plugin more or less the same as Waves StudioRack but for all AAX plugins.

[Drew Mazurek]

I disagree completely.

I want plugin chains and the ability to load them etc, but I DO NOT want them all buried into another "interface" in the GUI.

PT has 10 inserts for a reason. I want each plug on its own insert, freely viewable and accessible on my ICON.

I guess it's cool for Waves' plugs and the same will likely be true for Slate's VMR, but I don't think it's a good way for Avid to handle this in PT overall.

[jacko]

Originally Posted by Drew Mazurek

I disagree completely.

I want plugin chains and the ability to load them etc, but I DO NOT want them all buried into another "interface" in the GUI.

PT has 10 inserts for a reason. I want each plug on its own insert, freely viewable and accessible on my ICON.

What I mainly like about this implementation is that I can recall a preset that contains changes in all 8 plugins and Pro Tools sees it as a change in automation parameters of all plugins. Using the following: Preview mode, copy/paste plugin settings (cmnd+shift+C/V) and write automation to selection is great. I think it's quicker than using Capture buffer.

I agree with your points. I also think mine are valid too. It would be nice if both could be achieved.

[Drew Mazurek]

The problem is, if Avid does something similar, then you've got two systems inside PT. no bueno.

[jacko]

Originally Posted by Drew Mazurek

The problem is, if Avid does something similar, then you've got two systems inside PT. no bueno.

Well, let's forget about a separate plugin. When they introduce plugin chain presets it would be useful if those presets could be automated, of course only in case the presets consist of exactly the same chain of plugins. You know - the way recalling presets in latch mode works now with single plugins.

Well, I think I got excited about having plugin chain presets right now with Waves :)

[DetroitT]

"PT has 10 inserts for a reason. I want each plug on its own insert, freely viewable and accessible"

+1

[jacko]

Originally Posted by DetroitT

"PT has 10 inserts for a reason. I want each plug on its own insert, freely viewable and accessible"

+1

I do agree with this.
Basically: functionality of StudioRack without a separete window is something that I would like to see. With smooth recalling settings of all 10 inserts in one click.

[Drew Mazurek]

Ok, so now we agree.

Not like Waves.

Although Avid, being in complete control of PT unlike Waves, could have some sort of global plugin view that would be similar.

[YYR123]

Originally Posted by milaszewski

I do agree with this.
Basically: functionality of StudioRack without a separete window is something that I would like to see. With smooth recalling settings of all 10 inserts in one click.

yep one click would be great.


I haven't downloaded or installed it yet but I like that the output of each plugin has it's own metering....very useful

[Emcha_audio]

I'm really hoping I'm mistaking here, but if you look on waves web page, there's prices set for the eMtion st mixer 450$, so unless I'm mistaken here, it seems that you need to buy the software on top of buying the hardware? Becoming expensive for something that will add layers of routing over your recording and mixing...