Weird way of punching in help...

[Dizzi45Z]

I occasionally get the artist who wants to hear their voice the whole time while they are punching in. So in other words, they want to hear their voice along with the original voice and then when I punch them in, the other voice should mute.

It seems simple, but I can't figure out how to set this up. I thought that maybe you could have a track that has input monitoring on with the same input as the track that you are punching in (without input monitoring on). But when you punch in, their voice is louder because you now have the signal coming through twice.

Any cool ideas of how to do this?

[crizdee]

Originally Posted by Dizzi45Z

I occasionally get the artist who wants to hear their voice the whole time while they are punching in. So in other words, they want to hear their voice along with the original voice and then when I punch them in, the other voice should mute.

It seems simple, but I can't figure out how to set this up. I thought that maybe you could have a track that has input monitoring on with the same input as the track that you are punching in (without input monitoring on). But when you punch in, their voice is louder because you now have the signal coming through twice.

Any cool ideas of how to do this?

Hi,

I've tried several ways to do this and nothing really worked. like most people i pull the recorded info onto a dedicated playback track but then you have to edit what you don't need before recording again.

I did send an email to Steve Massey to see if he could modify his talk-back plugin to mute when PT goes into record then it could be used on a monitor track!! It must be doable, i'm surprised AviDigi haven't thought of this option.

Chris

[Micks_Mix]

Hi! This is not sooo weird, I think this is known as the "super cue" feature of the SSL4000, so I think your console needs to support this. I don't know how it can be realized just within Pro Tools...

[Hanswurstlsepp]

Originally Posted by Dizzi45Z

I occasionally get the artist who wants to hear their voice the whole time while they are punching in. So in other words, they want to hear their voice along with the original voice and then when I punch them in, the other voice should mute.

It seems simple, but I can't figure out how to set this up. I thought that maybe you could have a track that has input monitoring on with the same input as the track that you are punching in (without input monitoring on). But when you punch in, their voice is louder because you now have the signal coming through twice.

Any cool ideas of how to do this?

Hi,

I'm not sitting in front of my PT-rig ... but wouldn't it work like this ?

1) Create a mono Aux input.
2) Choose as input the one which is coming from the vocalist's mic preamp.
3) Choose as output a mono bus and as a second (and maybe third) output (with ctrl key pressed) an output or bus which will feed your control room section & the headphone cue.
4) Route the bus (the one output from the Aux) over to the Audio Channel's input where you want to record the vocalist.

That way, the vocalist/artist will always hear what's already recorded and he can sing in addition to it. As soon as you punch in (punch on the fly), he will only hear what he (or she) is singing.

I never tried that so far, but I will do so tomorrow to see if this might work

[Dizzi45Z]

Originally Posted by Hanswurstlsepp

Hi,

I'm not sitting in front of my PT-rig ... but wouldn't it work like this ?

1) Create a mono Aux input.
2) Choose as input the one which is coming from the vocalist's mic preamp.
3) Choose as output a mono bus and as a second (and maybe third) output (with ctrl key pressed) an output or bus which will feed your control room section & the headphone cue.
4) Route the bus (the one output from the Aux) over to the Audio Channel's input where you want to record the vocalist.

That way, the vocalist/artist will always hear what's already recorded and he can sing in addition to it. As soon as you punch in (punch on the fly), he will only hear what he (or she) is singing.

I never tried that so far, but I will do so tomorrow to see if this might work

Thank you for all the responses. Hanswurstlsepp, I believe I set it all up as you explained and the problem is that when you punch in, you get twice the level from the vocalist because they hear both from the Aux input and from the output of the audio track which are both playing what is being recorded.

The way you describe has the same problem as just making both an aux input and a regular audio track's input the same.

[Dizzi45Z]

Originally Posted by crizdee

Hi,

I did send an email to Steve Massey to see if he could modify his talk-back plugin to mute when PT goes into record then it could be used on a monitor track!! It must be doable, i'm surprised AviDigi haven't thought of this option.

Chris

Good idea. Is his Talkback plug-in still compatible? I stopped using it because I thought that it became incompatible. In any case, I miss that plug-in. I would really find it useful if he did include that option as well.

[crizdee]

Originally Posted by Dizzi45Z

Good idea. Is his Talkback plug-in still compatible? I stopped using it because I thought that it became incompatible. In any case, I miss that plug-in. I would really find it useful if he did include that option as well.

Hi,

Still using it in the latest PT version.


Chris

[psmworld]

Originally Posted by crizdee

Hi,

Still using it in the latest PT version.


Chris

looking for the installer for weeks...

[DetroitT]

1. If using a control surface you could punch n mute together (Mute Mic-Monitor feed).
2. You could set up a phase reversed mono (Mic-Monitor) so they cancel when punched.*

* may require TDM-Trim Bothe channels and Delay Comp on (?). Figure the level balance for cancelation.

[crizdee]

Originally Posted by DetroitT

1. If using a control surface you could punch n mute together (Mute Mic-Monitor feed).
2. You could set up a phase reversed mono (Mic-Monitor) so they cancel when punched.*

* may require TDM-Trim Bothe channels and Delay Comp on (?). Figure the level balance for cancelation.

Control surface way is messy and not really viable as it requires 2 buttons to be pressed and pressed again to un-mute etc.

I tried phase reversal but i couldn't get it to work. might try again though. Have you done it successfully?


Chris