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Re: New Licensing
One important lesson from Waves for Avid - Waves was among the most hated music companies for a while, especially due to their original WUP stance. However, these days, after they acquiesced and decided to treat their customers fairly, anecdotally, it seems their reputation has increased tenfold amongst the music community. Probably benefited their bottom line too.
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And here's a screenshot of what I have; notice there is no number by the comments; adblocker deactivated, page reloaded, all scripts allowed, disqus not blocked:
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OK then comrades, I think this needs a new thread to start an official boycott, and folks can comment or just +1. Anyone want to volunteer to do the OP? Short, clear and to the point. Is the PT11 discussion thread the best home for it, btw? And anyone in direct communication with Russ at PTE?
And to be clear about what we're asking. If they left folks opt back in any time, I personally would be ok with everything else, but there are probably other palatable solutions. I don't think we should get too specific on demands, everyone would have a different take. Avid need to come up with their own plan B ultimately, and do it fast. I think the headline demand should just be "something's got to give". PT11 and CPTK owners past and present are the most severely affected it seems to me, but clearly there are many people not in either of these camps that feel the same way.
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I know I'm already on the cusp of being banned. This is the only thread with a possibility to survive https://www.gearslutz.com/board/moan...id-strike.html A new thread here on the DUC will not survive and will probably get you banned. The Admin here has been more than generous with me so far, but I know when to quit and this will be my last post on the subject here. Time to hit the blogs too.
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Oh yeah - DP8 also runs on OSX 10.6.8 as well as more current oSX versions. Also don't forget that DP8 is now cross platform for both Windows and Mac. My income stream isn't steady as I do a lot of work for small theatre groups in the area and they don't pay much. Certainly not enough to pay the Avid yearly tax for features that may or may not come to public release. |
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Anyone any other suggestions?
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With risk of repeating myself, the only real problem I see with this is the fact that your "perpetual license" becomes frozen/locked/no-longer-upgradeable FOREVER(even though you can still use it on that version) if you don't renew your subscription. It's the knife-against-the-throat tactic that is messed up.
I would be cool with this, if I'd for example bought the "Support/Cloud/Upgrade/Collab Subscription" Jan 1. had it till next Jan 1. and decided I won't need these things for a couple of months and then maybe upgrade in June the next time, because I need the collaboration or maybe some new feature. There could be hundreds of reasons why you'd not need a subscription for the time being. If Avid doesn't believe in their product, letting us pay up-front, "come on, we promise, you won't regret it, just give us the money, you will benefit!!", then why should we? They key to having people to pay on a subscription basis is to give them something that would justify having to pay on a regular basis, otherwise I'd benefit from upgrading when I'd like to i e.g. people who've waited to upgrade to PT 11. br |
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To elaborate on my previous point, a regular PT user who lets his plan lapse and has to re-buy a perpetual license, knows he will pay $899.
A Media Composer person knows he will pay $1299. What will an HD user pay? We don't know, because there is no standalone perpetual HD license! How will they handle this? It's hard to make an informed decision if they don't give us this information. |
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Since when is a Pro Tools vanilla license $899?
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ghostwriter, link posted earlier didn't work for me, but I found your post anyway, here ...
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/moan...l#post10485518 Notice the 8 at the end instead of 7 ..... wtf Is there some surreptitious editing of people's posts going on here on the DUC?
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