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Old 11-14-2013, 11:55 AM
ReachMusicProductions ReachMusicProductions is offline
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Default 20+ Hard crashes PT11

Fresh install of PT11.0.2 and PT10.3.7 on Mac OSX 10.8.5.

I7-3770K
P8Z77-LK (1155)
XMS3- 8GB
Crucial M4-(OS and Programs)
WD Blue 500gb, 7200rpm (Sample Libraries)
Internal HD4000 Graphics

Seems like only when I go in for intense wav editing It will up and crash. Feels like things slow down for a split second and then my session is gone!
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: 20+ Hard crashes PT11

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Fresh install of PT11.0.2 and PT10.3.7 on Mac OSX 10.8.5.

I7-3770K
P8Z77-LK (1155)
XMS3- 8GB
Crucial M4-(OS and Programs)
WD Blue 500gb, 7200rpm (Sample Libraries)
Internal HD4000 Graphics

Seems like only when I go in for intense wav editing It will up and crash. Feels like things slow down for a split second and then my session is gone!
Not much info to go on here...

What exact DAE or other error message do you get from the "crash", or if not an error message then what is in the Console (console.app) User Diagnostic Report logs when the applciation crashes. Are they all the same? Paste the first 100 or so lines here from a typical one of these crash logs.

What third party plugins are in use or just installed (even if not used), and are they up to date?

What troubleshooting steps have you tired? When did this start happening? (was PT ever working OK on this system? What version?). What changed?
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:11 PM
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Not much info to go on here...

What exact DAE or other error message do you get from the "crash", or if not an error message then what is in the Console (console.app) User Diagnostic Report logs when the applciation crashes. Are they all the same? Paste the first 100 or so lines here from a typical one of these crash logs.

What third party plugins are in use or just installed (even if not used), and are they up to date?

What standard troubleshooting steps have you tired? Whan did this start happening? What changed?
There actually isn't an error message at all. It will literally hard crash and PT11 will be closed.

-Waves Mercury
-Komplete 8
-SSD4 Platinum
-Superior Drummer
-XLN AD/AK
-Vienna Suite
-Omnisphere
-Trillian
-Stylus
-PT11 Plugins.

Everything is up to date as of this month, clean install of all programs.
The session crash is the same everytime. I can post a sandra report or otherwise if needed!

Thank you for the reply!
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:20 PM
Darryl Ramm Darryl Ramm is offline
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Default Re: 20+ Hard crashes PT11

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There actually isn't an error message at all. It will literally hard crash and PT11 will be closed.

-Waves Mercury
-Komplete 8
-SSD4 Platinum
-Superior Drummer
-XLN AD/AK
-Vienna Suite
-Omnisphere
-Trillian
-Stylus
-PT11 Plugins.

Everything is up to date as of this month, clean install of all programs.
The session crash is the same everytime. I can post a sandra report or otherwise if needed!

Thank you for the reply!
I want the the Console app crash log as asked for. Those logs will be in Console.app if the app crashed.

Oh goodie, lots of plugins, and some currently seeming slightly flaky ones (like SD) first rule of Crash Club is *always* suspect the plugin. Move all of the plugins out of their folders temporarily and see if this happens again with the same session. If the problem does not occur then try moving them back in in batches until things go south again. Do this test carefully, yes even plugin loaded into Pro Tools but not substantiated in the session can do this.

Plugin file location are described here http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/e...n&DocType=1079
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: 20+ Hard crashes PT11

Are you using a lot of VIs in your sessions when you get the crashes?

Robert
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:20 PM
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I want the the Console app crash log as asked for. Those logs will be in Console.app if the app crashed.

Oh goodie, lots of plugins, and some currently seeming slightly flaky ones (like SD) first rule of Crash Club is *always* suspect the plugin. Move all of the plugins out of their folders temporarily and see if this happens again with the same session. If the problem does not occur then try moving them back in in batches until things go south again. Do this test carefully, yes even plugin loaded into Pro Tools but not substantiated in the session can do this.

Plugin file location are described here http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/e...n&DocType=1079
Absolutely, I'll try removing plugins now. I tried loading the session with no plugs and it never crashed. Held shift as I booted up the sesh.

Where can I find the Console.app crash log?

I've got about 10 different VI's running and about 10 other plugins running. Crashing is more prevalent when the buffer size was low.
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:25 PM
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Absolutely, I'll try removing plugins now. I tried loading the session with no plugs and it never crashed. Held shift as I booted up the sesh.

Where can I find the Console.app crash log?

I've got about 10 different VI's running and about 10 other plugins running. Crashing is more prevalent when the buffer size was low.
Console.app in the /Applications/Utilities folder or you can search for it with Spotlight.
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:39 PM
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Console.app in the /Applications/Utilities folder or you can search for it with Spotlight.
Here is a crash on a brand new session with Just Trillian and Addictive drums open.


-----------------------------000041A710D63AF1
Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Version"

11.0.2
-----------------------------000041A710D63AF1
Content-Disposition: form-data; name="CrashTime"

1384468635
-----------------------------000041A710D63AF1
Content-Disposition: form-data; name="BuildID"

ProTools_11.0.2:626
-----------------------------000041A710D63AF1
Content-Disposition: form-data; name="ProductName"

Pro Tools
-----------------------------000041A710D63AF1
Content-Disposition: form-data; name="StartupTime"

1384467203
-----------------------------000041A710D63AF1
Content-Disposition: form-data; name="Config"

Release
-----------------------------000041A710D63AF1
Content-Disposition: form-data; name="upload_file_minidump"; filename="minidump.dmp"
Content-Type: application/octet-stream
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: 20+ Hard crashes PT11

Can we assume you're on PC rather than Mac?
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:41 PM
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Can we assume you're on PC rather than Mac?
It's a PC. Windows 7 never got along with PT. Been much more stable on 10.8.5 OSX.
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