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Old 12-17-2018, 04:14 PM
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Default New Samsung EVO 860 question

Hello! I bought two new SSD drives (Samsung EVO 860) to use for sessions and samples. I got a little external case made by sabrent to use with this. When I plugged it into my macbook pro via USB 3, it says "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer."

I'm on Mac 10.12.6. Do I have to format the drive? Also, what's the deal with TRIM? Anything specific I should do to get the best performance/lifespan? Sorry.. total noob with computer stuff.

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Old 12-17-2018, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: New Samsung EVO 860 question

Format. I don't bother with trim. But there is a lot of stuff about it.
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:46 PM
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Format. I don't bother with trim. But there is a lot of stuff about it.
Cool! And what is the best option for format; Mac OS Extended (Journaled), or ExFat? And for scheme; GUID Partition Map, Master Boot Record, Apple Partition Map?

Do most people us ExFat to be able to use with PC as well? The option is nice, but I'm on mac right now. Pondering PC up the road... Thoughts?
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:50 PM
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Cool! And what is the best option for format; Mac OS Extended (Journaled), or ExFat? And for scheme; GUID Partition Map, Master Boot Record, Apple Partition Map?

Do most people us ExFat to be able to use with PC as well? The option is nice, but I'm on mac right now. Pondering PC up the road... Thoughts?
No.. recording to ExFat is *not* supported by Pro Tools.

... APFS.
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:53 PM
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No.. recording to ExFat is *not* supported by Pro Tools.

... APFS.
Thank you Darryl! Regarding Sudo Trimforce Enable, do I do that after I format my external SSD? Kind looks like I just type that command in terminal and am good to go?
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Old 12-17-2018, 05:03 PM
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Thank you Darryl! Regarding Sudo Trimforce Enable, do I do that after I format my external SSD? Kind looks like I just type that command in terminal and am good to go?
You can turn TRIM on at any time. It's at a lower level than the filesystem.

See the man page for trimforce on your Mac.
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:45 PM
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Yes you need to format the drive.

Yes you should enable TRIM using "sudo trimforce enable". Google it that if you have questions.

With High Sierra or Mojave I woud be formatting the SSD as APFS, on Sierra meh it's more of a thought process, but probably yes (I'm not aware of any serious bugs but it was newer on Sierra). Or if you need older systems compatibility then just use HFS+.

Adding new drives is often good time to try an upgrade. You can throw MacOS Mojave onto one of these drives and try running it from there for a while and then switch over if it works well.
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Old 02-05-2019, 08:59 PM
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Default New Samsung EVO 860 question

That is correct. I think it was Sierra and up that Apple allowed TRIM on 3rd party drives.

Either run the 3rd party TRIM enabler or just rely on the drives own way of dealing with it.


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What I find interesting is that OWC say it plays nice with trim, then another article from them stating not good to do so.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:49 PM
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With samples that are largely read-only TRIM likely does not matter at all.

If the Samsung had heavy write load then TRIM will help, but how much, eh depends on how write busy the drive gets.
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