strike outputs advice

[ranas]

Hi to all strike users again
now I am looking at strike output features. I would like to hear opinions about how to route strike in pro tools better than a stereo audio track only. I was wondering if I could recreate for example, one audio track for eack kit piece and also and audio track for rooms and overheads . What I would like to know is diferents settings and which of them work better, or at least diferents opinions about this. Based on your experience.
thanks

[77pro]

Strike can output 8 stereo channels via the mixer page. I usually split them to mono for single drums and use stereo for the room and overhead mic channels. Page 40 of the guide has the details.

So my typical output setup would be like this:

CH. 1: L-kick R-snare
Ch. 2: L-hihat R-ride
Ch. 3: L-crash R-other cymbals if needed
Ch. 4: L-tom1 R-tom2
Ch. 5: L-tom3 R-tom?
Ch. 6: Any other drums needed for the larger kits,shaker,claps etc.
Ch. 7: Room Mics-stereo
Ch. 8: Overhead Mics-stereo

Of course this can be changed up any way you like to suit your workflow.

[ranas]

thamks 77pro i was more or less thinking in the same direction.
But one thing I am not sure is why kick on L and snare on R side of .
One of my doubts was that after trying with mono tracks, if I use L out 3 is not the same sound as if i choose R out 3, beeing for example the hi hat routed via this output 3 in strike.
Then I tried with stereo tracks and sounded as in strike, for example,
1 for kick
1 for snare
1 for hihat and ride
1 for toms
1 for cymbals
1 stereo track for overhead
1 stereo track for room
waht do you think about that configuration?

[77pro]

That setup would work fine also.
Not sure I understand your concern with splitting the channels to left and right for individual drums though. Make sure if you split the channel, the panner for each drum is set all the way to left or right.

In my example, I would pan the kick all the way left and set it to output 1, and pan the snare all the way to the right and set it also to output 1. If you don't pan like this, you won't get the seperation.

[ranas]

oh yes now I understand what you mean, thanks.
Now... by this we are not using the master channel of strike. I am correct?
did you notice using this kind of configuration low levels when recorded and monitoring strike? because if I dont use the master of strike with compresion the levels fall down more than just a few db.

[filosofem]

Originally Posted by ranas

did you notice using this kind of configuration low levels when recorded and monitoring strike?

That's because you're Bus Recording the Strike Preset Mix Settings.






filosofem

[ranas]

thanks filosofem, but it is a normal situation no?
I was not sure because I dont want to use the efects in the master channel of strike.

[filosofem]

ranas, yes I'd consider it normal, though I don't print Strike much these days because it's far easier to modify directly in the module. Though you're sacrificing system resources, you have full control over each and every Mix Channel Mic and parameter, plus all other non-destructive events. There just isn't enough Strike Output Busses to Bus Record each and every Mix Channel Mic. Keep it in the box, so to speak.

To counter Strike being Active and if you have too, Bus Record and Inactivate any other VI and with MIDI Track Offsets Strike plays pretty tight.







filosofem

[ranas]

Yes its true
to me strike can be recorded very well only with direct stereo output from its master channel, because its sounds great. but I like very much an old fashioned or not old but classic to have separates tracks because i can add difrent cuantities of some reverberation, and diferents settings of other plug ins for each track (kick, snare, hihat etc). And this plug ins are not in strike module. Thats why I want to use the diferents outputs without using strike efects.
as far I undertood i believed that each mix track have diferent proportions of mics (room, overhead and direct) to adjust before the signal is routed via the selected output to pro tool, is it correct?

[filosofem]

Yep, that's true ranas and just how 'indepth' you want your mix to be will be determined by whether or not you are going to include each and every Channel Mic parameter to it's respective Audio track.

This can get pretty complex but it would be about how much control you require.

Note also that you'll need to Bypass each Mix Channels Inserts unless you require those processing effects.







filosofem