No Pro Tools 13 for me unfortunately.

[Carl Kolchak]

Originally Posted by Extreme Mixing

I'm working now for a producer who's nominated for a couple of those awards. He's working on 11.3, and I really miss some of the things in 12.5.2. But I can do the work. And the music sounds great. So use what you choose, and get the work done.

And are you constantly berating him for being an irrational, bitter, cheapskate?

Or do you respect his decision not to elect to stay current, no matter what his particular reasons are?


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no kidding, i know award winning producers that are still using 9..

its just a tape machine replacement. software doesn't make hits, musicians do.

[Pedro perez]

Originally Posted by tundra

no kidding, i know award winning producers that are still using 9..

its just a tape machine replacement. software doesn't make hits, musicians do.

hahaha well put

[del cosmos]

Originally Posted by tundra

no kidding, i know award winning producers that are still using 9..



its just a tape machine replacement. software doesn't make hits, musicians do.

Not everything is a about Grammys, Platinum records and "hits".

Guys who make music as a hobby do not deserve a good product for their money? Their money worth less?

In my opinion the problem here is about Avid delivering an expensive product full of bugs with a very slow and poor development.




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[jryser]

Originally Posted by ramonetl

Well to be fair he has some valid points. That said I would be curious what he opted for instead of PT. The whole God Bless thing doesnt bother me as long as I dont have to do it before dinner cuz I get hangry. But on a serious note I get why he feels that way but I honestly dont think PT is that awful. The only smart thing Steve Ballmer ever said was that the last bug will be fixed the day the last customer dies. Its software and it will never be perfect. Im sure people bitched about tape in the day as well...

Yes we did. Then digital tape. Then "Hate-dats".


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[x9blade]

I feel the problem is simple.... If you dont agree with avids policy,simply dont buy into thier plan/subscription,license policy. I haven't spent a cent on avid since my procontrol was put out of commision. I also dont understand the subscription,license plan. It seems to be something so overcomplicated to use software. A bit embarrassing in my opinion.

I stayed with 10 and 11 HD for some years after retiring my Old tdm HD4 rig.
I did purchase an HD native card with my 10&11 software hoping they would
Eventually write the driver for the Procontrol but, that never happened and i never upgraded to 12 and never will.

I always enjoyed the duc and learned so much in my time here also been helped by some very generous people and have also made lifelong friends from the duc,always greatful for that. these days i usually come back to reassure that i made the right choice in switching daws ( reading the same problems for years,new and old bugs never getting sorted out ) I moved to Studio One,it's truly an eye opening expierience coming from the hassle world of protools.

Simply download the software ,no hassle with the install or hang ups,etc. just click install and it installs. Need to use a ton of Vi's? No problem, need something to control it with? Just install the app on your ipad (free) 45 secs later your up and running. Need a video track,add one and it wrks, not a problem I can go on and on. Very refreshing to have something do what its suppose to do.

Not saying this to offend anyone, i will always have good memories using PT alot of bad ones as well. I also have a bit of gear that is now for sale. 192's expanded,digi PRE's, tdm cards. 24 channel Procontrol,edit pack,argosy desk for PC,plug ins, etc.,etc, if anyone is interested.

2017 is a year to rid myself of protools, it already feels good. Good luck to all!!!

[Barry Johns]

Originally Posted by x9blade

I feel the problem is simple.... If you dont agree with avids policy,simply dont buy into thier plan/subscription,license policy. I haven't spent a cent on avid since my procontrol was put out of commision. I also dont understand the subscription,license plan. It seems to be something so overcomplicated to use software. A bit embarrassing in my opinion.

I stayed with 10 and 11 HD for some years after retiring my Old tdm HD4 rig.
I did purchase an HD native card with my 10&11 software hoping they would
Eventually write the driver for the Procontrol but, that never happened and i never upgraded to 12 and never will.

I always enjoyed the duc and learned so much in my time here also been helped by some very generous people and have also made lifelong friends from the duc,always greatful for that. these days i usually come back to reassure that i made the right choice in switching daws ( reading the same problems for years,new and old bugs never getting sorted out ) I moved to Studio One,it's truly an eye opening expierience coming from the hassle world of protools.

Simply download the software ,no hassle with the install or hang ups,etc. just click install and it installs. Need to use a ton of Vi's? No problem, need something to control it with? Just install the app on your ipad (free) 45 secs later your up and running. Need a video track,add one and it wrks, not a problem I can go on and on. Very refreshing to have something do what its suppose to do.

Not saying this to offend anyone, i will always have good memories using PT alot of bad ones as well. I also have a bit of gear that is now for sale. 192's expanded,digi PRE's, tdm cards. 24 channel Procontrol,edit pack,argosy desk for PC,plug ins, etc.,etc, if anyone is interested.

2017 is a year to rid myself of protools, it already feels good. Good luck to all!!!

The main reason I keep complaining is, I'm simply not giving up!

I believe one way or another Avid will listen and react accordingly!

Originally Posted by Barry Johns

I believe one way or another Avid will listen and react accordingly!

Maybe Godot will finally show up too.

[deanrichard]

Also, Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, the Easter Bunny, and trickle down economics are all real.

Ever worked in the corporate world?

Originally Posted by Barry Johns

The main reason I keep complaining is, I'm simply not giving up!

I believe one way or another Avid will listen and react accordingly!

[Pedro perez]

Originally Posted by x9blade

2017 is a year to rid myself of protools, it already feels good. Good luck to all!!!

Same here, whats your advice for and how to go about selling a Digidesing C24 ?