Current AAX PI's in the future PT

[Oblivion777]

I was just thinking will the current AAX PI's (Native and/or DSP) work in the next release of Pro Tools (PT11) or will all the PI developers need to re-compile them? I guess that the current 32-bit AAX PI's will work in 64-bit Pro Tools, right or wrong?

[rockridge]

... and do we really need 64 bit EQ's or delays or compressors?
Save 64 bit for samplers and soft synths and plugs that will really benefit.

Would it be wasting system resources needlessly?
Breaking even ... again?

[Oblivion777]

Don't get me wrong; I am not talking about the feasibility of 64-bit AAX compressors or whatever. I am merely asking if the currently released 32-bit AAX (Native and/or DSP) plug-ins will run in the next 64-bit version of Pro Tools or not.

[JFreak]

AFAIK, the current AAX software development kit is 32bit and 64bit ready, so whenever PT11 is out, developers will just have to reocompile and release. That's one of the most beautiful things about AAX, for us, that it's future-proof. The thing about AAX-DSP is different thing but AAX itself should be 64bit ready.

[DaveTremblay]

Originally Posted by Oblivion777

I was just thinking will the current AAX PI's (Native and/or DSP) work in the next release of Pro Tools (PT11) or will all the PI developers need to re-compile them? I guess that the current 32-bit AAX PI's will work in 64-bit Pro Tools, right or wrong?

Developers can build and test 64 bit AAX plug-ins with the shipping SDK, but we don't encourage them to ship 64 bit builds in their AAX bundles. Mainly this is for bug prevention. We don't really want a bunch of untested 64 bit plug-ins in the world before a 64 bit version of the app.

Dave

[DaveTremblay]

Originally Posted by rockridge

... and do we really need 64 bit EQ's or delays or compressors?
Save 64 bit for samplers and soft synths and plugs that will really benefit.

Would it be wasting system resources needlessly?
Breaking even ... again?

Pro Tools, in general, benefits from 64 bit address space. In a 32 bit world, Pro Tools and all of the plug-ins combined can only address a maximum of 4GB of your RAM. In the 64 bit world, you can use all of that 24GB I know you have.

And while a single EQ plug-in may not require 64 bit, you can't load a 32 bit plug-in into a 64 bit application. You can create a 32 bit plug-in host that bridges over to a 64 bit application, but you incur latency and performance penalties doing that.

Dave

[DaveTremblay]

Originally Posted by JFreak

AFAIK, the current AAX software development kit is 32bit and 64bit ready, so whenever PT11 is out, developers will just have to reocompile and release. That's one of the most beautiful things about AAX, for us, that it's future-proof. The thing about AAX-DSP is different thing but AAX itself should be 64bit ready.

That is correct, it is just a rebuild. And testing with a 64 bit application, of course.

Dave

[Oblivion777]

Dave thank you very much for taking the time to write the replies. Really appreciate it. And keep up the good work...all of you at the "Digi"-part of Avid.

[DaveTremblay]

Originally Posted by Oblivion777

Dave thank you very much for taking the time to write the replies. Really appreciate it. And keep up the good work...all of you at the "Digi"-part of Avid.

No problem. Transitions like this are always going to be a little confusing and complicated, so I think we kind of owe it to you guys to clear things up when we can.

Dave

[rockridge]

Originally Posted by DaveTremblay

...you can't load a 32 bit plug-in into a 64 bit application. You can create a 32 bit plug-in host that bridges over to a 64 bit application...

So, you're saying that the current group of AAX plugs will be unusable it PT11 without a bridge?

Originally Posted by DaveTremblay

... but you incur latency and performance penalties doing that.Dave

What kind of latency are we talking about... something delay compensation can't handle?
If I have a 64 bit session with a combination of 64 bit plugs and bridged 32 bit plugs, what kind of performance penalties could we expect?

P.S. My Protools computer only has 8 gig... so much for your psychic abilities