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Old 11-07-2010, 04:45 PM
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Default very slow start up

Hello,
i had this issue with 8 as well.. when i launch Protools it takes a fairly lengthy amount of time to look for plugins and boot up . Once finshed loading it works fine.. If i shut the program down ..then load it up again, it loads super quick. Just wondering why this happens? Is it possible to speed up the initial launch?

For my setup i have protools running of an internal drive but I am currently using a usb line for an external drive which i record audio onto. In the near future i will have another internal drive for the audio.

I tried launching with or without this external drive and noticed no difference in terms of speed.

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Computer
Manufacturer : HP
Model : HPE-372f
Family : 103C_53316J G=D
Version : xxx0204GRxxxxxxxx0
Serial Number : MXX029020C
ID : BE163B80-1015E556-2E8ECBA2-68FA9BB8
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Computer Chassis
Manufacturer : HP
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No
Power Cord(s) : 1
Asset Tag : MXX029020C
Boot-up State : Safe
Power State : Safe
Thermal State : Safe
Security State : External Interface Locked-out

Mainboard
Manufacturer : MSI
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processing (MPS) Version : 1.40
Model : 2A9C
Type : Mainboard
Version : 1.0
BIOS : 65-0100-000001-00101111-051910-LfdHvdImc

Mainboard Properties
Removable : No
Replaceable : Yes
Hot Swap : No

Computer Memory Controller
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Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 4
Maximum Installable Memory : 16GB
BANK0 - DIMM0 : Samsung M378B5673FH0-CH9 4840B93A NONE DIMM Synchronous DDR3 2GB/64 @ 1.33GHz
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BANK2 - DIMM2 : Samsung M378B5673FH0-CH9 4840B942 NONE DIMM Synchronous DDR3 2GB/64 @ 1.33GHz
BANK3 - DIMM3 : Samsung M378B5673FH0-CH9 4840B9DF NONE DIMM Synchronous DDR3 2GB/64 @ 1.33GHz

Chipset
Model : HP Clarksfield/Lynnfield DMI
OEM Device Name : Intel Clarksfield/Lynnfield DMI
Revision : B2
Bus : Intel CSI (Quick Path)
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 2x 3.2GHz (6.4GHz)
In/Out Width : 20-bit / 20-bit
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 18.7GB/s
Maximum Power : 20.00W

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : Hub-Interface
Version : 2.00
Number of Ports : 4
Width : 16-bit
Full Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 2x

Chipset
Model : Intel Core Desktop (Lynnfield) UnCore
OEM Device Name : Intel Core Desktop (Lynnfield) UnCore
Revision : A5
Bus : Intel CSI (Quick Path)
Version : 1.00
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz)
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
I/O Queue Depth : 64 request(s)

Chipset 2 Hub Interface
Type : Intel CSI (Quick Path)
Version : 1.00
Multiplier : 18x
Speed : 2x 2.4GHz (4.79GHz)

Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
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Bank 1 : 2GB DIMM DDR3 9-9-9-24 4-33-11-6 2T
Bank 3 : 2GB DIMM DDR3 9-9-9-24 4-33-11-6 2T
Bank 4 : 2GB DIMM DDR3 9-9-9-24 4-33-11-6 2T
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Supported Memory Types : DIMM DDR3 Scrubbing
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 665MHz (1.33GHz)
Maximum Memory Speed : 2x 667MHz (1.33GHz)
Multiplier : 5x
Width : 64-bit
Integrated in Processor : Yes
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 20.78GB/s

APIC 1
Version : 2.00
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module
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Model : M378B5673FH0-CH9
Serial Number : 4840B931
Type : 2GB DIMM DDR3
Technology : 8x(1024Mx8)
Speed : PC3-10700U DDR3-1334
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Version : 1.00
Date of Manufacture : August-26-16
Timing @ 457MHz : 6-6-6-16 3-22-7-3
Timing @ 533MHz : 7-7-7-19 3-26-8-4
Timing @ 610MHz : 8-8-8-22 4-30-9-5
Timing @ 686MHz : 9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5

Memory Module
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Model : M378B5673FH0-CH9
Serial Number : 4840B93A
Type : 2GB DIMM DDR3
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Speed : PC3-10700U DDR3-1334
Standard Timings : 9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5
Version : 1.00
Date of Manufacture : August-26-16
Timing @ 457MHz : 6-6-6-16 3-22-7-3
Timing @ 533MHz : 7-7-7-19 3-26-8-4
Timing @ 610MHz : 8-8-8-22 4-30-9-5
Timing @ 686MHz : 9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Samsung
Model : M378B5673FH0-CH9
Serial Number : 4840B9DF
Type : 2GB DIMM DDR3
Technology : 8x(1024Mx8)
Speed : PC3-10700U DDR3-1334
Standard Timings : 9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5
Version : 1.00
Date of Manufacture : August-26-16
Timing @ 457MHz : 6-6-6-16 3-22-7-3
Timing @ 533MHz : 7-7-7-19 3-26-8-4
Timing @ 610MHz : 8-8-8-22 4-30-9-5
Timing @ 686MHz : 9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Samsung
Model : M378B5673FH0-CH9
Serial Number : 4840B942
Type : 2GB DIMM DDR3
Technology : 8x(1024Mx8)
Speed : PC3-10700U DDR3-1334
Standard Timings : 9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5
Version : 1.00
Date of Manufacture : August-26-16
Timing @ 457MHz : 6-6-6-16 3-22-7-3
Timing @ 533MHz : 7-7-7-19 3-26-8-4
Timing @ 610MHz : 8-8-8-22 4-30-9-5
Timing @ 686MHz : 9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5

Sensors 1
Model : Fintek F71858F/FG LPC
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Sensors 2
Model : Intel Core CPU [P0, C4, T99]
Version : 30.05
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
CPU 1 Temperature : 38.00°C td

System Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.30
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System Bus 1 : PCIe 2.00 x16 5Gbps
System Bus 2 : PCIe 2.00 x1 2.5Gbps
System Bus 3 : PCIe 2.00 x1 2.5Gbps
System Bus 4 : PCIe 2.00 x1 2.5Gbps
System Bus 5 : PCI66
System Bus 255 : PCI

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : HP H57 LPC Interface Controller
OEM Device Name : Intel H57 LPC Interface Controller
Revision : A7
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Advanced TCO Mode Support : Yes
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
High Precision Timer Enabled : Yes
Number of Precision Timers : 8
System Timer : 14.32MHz
Delayed Transaction Enabled : Yes

LPC Legacy Controller 1
Type : Fintek F71858DG
Version : 0.07
Number of Enabled Devices : 16

Disk Controller
Model : HP ICH8R (ICH8) SATA RAID Controller
OEM Device Name : Intel ICH8R (ICH8) SATA RAID Controller
Interface : SATA
Revision : A7
Maximum SATA Mode : G2 / SATA300
RAID Support : Yes
RAID Enabled : Yes
Channels : 6
In Use Channels : 2
Port : G1 / SATA150
Port : G1 / SATA150

Audio Device
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OEM Device Name : Intel P55/PM55/3400 High Definition Audio
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Type : HD (High-Definition) Audio
Version : 1.00
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Number of Serial Data Streams : 1

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Revision : A3
Version : 1.00
Audio Channels : 14

Audio Device
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OEM Device Name : ATI (AMD) EG JUNIPER XT Audio Device [Radeon HD 5700 Series]
Revision : A1
Type : HD (High-Definition) Audio
Version : 1.00
Number of In / Out / Bi-Directional Streams : 0 / 1 / 0
Number of Serial Data Streams : 1

USB Controller 1
Model : HP P55/PM55/3400 USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
OEM Device Name : Intel P55/PM55/3400 USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
Revision : A7
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 2
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 64-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
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OEM Device Name : Intel P55/PM55/3400 USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
Revision : A7
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 2
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 64-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

FireWire/1394 Controller 1
Model : HP VT6315 Series Firewire Controller
OEM Device Name : VIA VT6315 Series Firewire Controller
Revision : A1
Version : 1.10
Interface : OHCI
Enhanced Support : No
Speed : 400MHz

SMBus/i2c Controller 1
Model : Intel 801xx/63xx SMBus
Version : 0.06
Specification : 2.00
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : Yes
PEC Support : Yes
Speed : 100kHz

Expansion Slot(s)
PCIE-1 (1h) : PCIe x16 +3.3V Shared PME Full-Length Used
PCIE-2 (2h) : PCIe x1 +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Available
PCIE-3 (3h) : PCIe x1 +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Used
PCIE-4 (4h) : PCIe x1 +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Available
Mini-PCIE (5h) : PCIe x1 +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Available

Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: very slow start up

Im finding the same problem here. Its taking me 5 minutes to start up for the first time. I reinstalled all my plugs, and I trashed the prefs. Not sure of what else I should do to make it start faster.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: very slow start up

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Im finding the same problem here. Its taking me 5 minutes to start up for the first time. I reinstalled all my plugs, and I trashed the prefs. Not sure of what else I should do to make it start faster.
I have the same problem...super annoying and ridiculous...

Why is this happening\?///////
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: very slow start up

This is normal!

it's only the 1st time and after this it should be fine.
what's 5 mins to get a stable daw after that? Great excuse for a cup of java

only after a plugin update it might take a bit longer again.

cheers,
Mark
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: very slow start up

Hmmm... Every time I power on my computer it takes 5 mins to start Pro Tools, not just after a plugin update. Or are you saying its normal every time I start my computer to take this long? I dont remember 6.4 (the last time I had Pro Tools on PC) taking that long to start.
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: very slow start up

no, THAT is not normal.
Have you tried trashing all prefs?


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Hmmm... Every time I power on my computer it takes 5 mins to start Pro Tools, not just after a plugin update. Or are you saying its normal every time I start my computer to take this long? I dont remember 6.4 (the last time I had Pro Tools on PC) taking that long to start.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: very slow start up

Do you have tons of plugins? The initial slow loading time might be the re-authorization of everything because you deleted your prefs or installed upgrades to PT.

For example, I have the Waves Gold bundle and whenever I upgrade or crossgrade PT, the initial load time always takes significantly longer. As mentioned above however, after that, load time should greatly improve.

Note, trashing prefs or modifying/deleting/upgrading PT files can also result in your slow load time first time around.

PT will go through the slow 'first load' sequence each time its slate is wiped clean or rebooted.

Anything after this...something be wrong friend. IMO
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:06 PM
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Hi again. Yah, I tried trashing all the prefs, no difference. Weird. I dont have that many plugs (all legit, no cracks). I have maybe 10-15 plugs installed that arent the ones that come with Pro Tools. This is also a fairly fresh install of Windows 7.


I did some timings on the start up times:

After restarting the computer:

1st Pro Tools start up: 4 mins 26 seconds
2nd Pro Tools start up: 38 seconds
3rd Pro Tools start up: 40 seconds


I then restarted my computer and did the timings again:

1st Pro Tools start up: 4 minutes 12 seconds
2nd Pro Tools start up: 40 seconds
3rd Pro Tools start up: 39 seconds

This was the time it took to get from clicking on the icon to the "Quick Start" screen.


It does seem the first start up is scanning the plugs very slowly. When I first noticed this I went through and reinstalled every 3rd party plug with freshly downloaded installers (to make sure I had the latest versions) and trashed the prefs. I also did a fresh reinstall of Pro Tools. Any other ideas?

Thanks for the help everyone,
Michael
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: very slow start up

This Is Normal ! :) I face the same situation .. and this only occurs with Pro Tools on a PC Based system never on a MAC !

PT 9 launches in seconds on my Macbook Pro which have much lower specs than my Desktop based PC and with the same plugins on both .... it takes from 3 to 5 minutes to load on my PC every time :)

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Old 09-10-2011, 06:47 PM
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I'm experiencing the same problem (among others). I never had the problem on xp and pt 8. On xp it would take a long time to load ONLY after deleting prefs or adding a new plugin. Then it would take around 30 seconds every other time. NOW it takes at least 3 minutes to start EVERY time I first turn on pro tools after a restart. Definitely annoying. Would love to see this fixed.
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