Dear AVID employee

[tomc3084]

Originally Posted by sorcerer27

I agree, I wouldn't necessarily blame Chris, but you sure could blame folks like Bobby Lombardi, Max, and The Chimp for continually blowing smoke up our as_ with regard to the further development of the 11R!

Im sorry, for some reason I thought the chimp and chris were the same person.....

[adamqlw]

No point staying in an abusive relationship...

I've already moved on from the 11R. Next thing to drop is ProTools. Going to try out Reaper and PreSonus to see if I can bond with them.

Avid, this is how you lose customers.

[Sam C]

Originally Posted by adamqlw

No point staying in an abusive relationship...

I've already moved on from the 11R. Next thing to drop is ProTools. Going to try out Reaper and PreSonus to see if I can bond with them.

Avid, this is how you lose customers.

No doubt...

[digitalscream]

Originally Posted by adamqlw

Going to try out Reaper and PreSonus to see if I can bond with them.

For what it's worth, I've known a lot of people who've moved to Reaper from Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase etc. I haven't known any of them go back.

[strangedogs]

I've been using Reaper, Logic, Cubase, etc for a long, long time - now I'm a new Pro Tools user... maybe it's just the "newness" but I actually like it so far and am enjoying learning it.

[adamqlw]

Originally Posted by strangedogs

I've been using Reaper, Logic, Cubase, etc for a long, long time - now I'm a new Pro Tools user... maybe it's just the "newness" but I actually like it so far and am enjoying learning it.

For clarification: I don't dislike Protools. I dislike the nickle-and-diming approach to upgrades.

Someone is going to jump in and say "but new versions don't make yours obsolete". To which I will say, welcome to 2013, where other companies support their product with bug fixes and sometimes new features, at far more competitive prices and sometimes for free. As the differentiation between products declines, so too is the premium that customers are going to be willing to pay for little more than a brand name.

I do like the ProTools workflow. But my overall experience with Avid as a company has left me with a bad taste in my mouth, and I'm willing to put up with the learning curve to move on.

[TOM@METRO]

There have been many updates to "Pro Tools 10" in the last year. All of them free.

[Benoni]

Originally Posted by TOM@METRO

There have been many updates to "Pro Tools 10" in the last year. All of them free.

Im pretty sure he is referring to the price between major versions like 8 to 9, and especially 8 or 9 to 10.

[adamqlw]

Originally Posted by Benoni

Im pretty sure he is referring to the price between major versions like 8 to 9, and especially 8 or 9 to 10.

This exactly. Give the time horizon of release, the upgrade from 9 to 10 was particularly distasteful after I had upgraded from 8 to 9.

[TOM@METRO]

Hi Benoni,

I was referring to the statement regarding bug fixes. These and minor feature tweaks have historically been free, and even as AVID moves away from the consumer segment this continues to be the case, even on the professional side of things. And yes, if we are speaking of major version upgrades, everybody charges for those. No argument there.

Originally Posted by adamqlw

For clarification:welcome to 2013, where other companies support their product with bug fixes and sometimes new features, at far more competitive prices and sometimes for free..