@ Avid : iLok2 & iLok original

[Barry Johns]

Company's that require an ILOK2 should provide one free if you own an existing ilok!

[Carl Kolchak]

Originally Posted by Bill Denton

You can't buy it here?

http://www.soundware.co.uk/sc/search.php?query=ilok

Aren't they in your 'hood?

Yeah, here too (slightly cheaper), but the Slate offer is still a bargain, even allowing for the $25 international shipping - assuming you actually want the plugin :

UK iLok2 = £35.50p

RC-TUBE = £33.33p

Total = £68.83p


Vs


RC-TUBE + Free iLok2 = £33.33p

International Shipping = £17

Total = £50.33p


Of course, if you don't want the plug-in, just pay the £35.50 for the iLok2.

[sw rec]

So if I bought a 2010 'Vette, I'm entitled to a "free upgrade" 2013 when it comes out? Hmmmm......

[DUCHUNTER]

Originally Posted by sw rec

So if I bought a 2010 'Vette, I'm entitled to a "free upgrade" 2013 when it comes out? Hmmmm......

Of course not. You should pay a nominal $50 upgrade fee.

[Carl Kolchak]

Originally Posted by Barry Johns

Company's that require an ILOK2 should provide one free if you own an existing ilok!

I have to admit, I'm slightly surprised they never offered a trade-in.

If your v1 iLok dies, and you send it back for an RMA, the free replacement they send back will be an iLok2.

I would expect to pay the difference between the v1 iLok, and the iLok2, given that they were half the price, but it seems wasteful to just ditch a perfectly functioning piece of hardware.

If it's because the copyright protection system that Avid bought in to, and by extension we had to buy, is deemed in need of an upgrade, it seems fair that as it's their (Avid's / Pace's) decision to do so, they should be responsible for making sure we are all equally protected (at no incurred cost to the customer).

That's exactly what HSBC, and a number of other banks have done - issuing every customer with a credit card sized digital code key, to access on-line banking.

Likewise, when credit and debit cards moved over to "Chip & PIN", both to protect the banks, and the customers assets - there were no fees imposed upon the customer.

[Sardi]

Originally Posted by danander11

I've just migrated computers and spent a bit of time re-authorizing all of my non-iLok licenses... time I would not have had to spend if the licenses were on iLok.

It's actually bargain priced in the grand scheme of things.. How much is an hour or two of your time worth?

I've always been intrigued when people say this when the iLok debate comes up.

When you migrate systems, are you restoring from a clone or installing everything from scratch? If it's the latter, surely the time it takes to install the actual plugins themselves is the time consuming aspect.

I have a mixture of iLok, serial no. and C&R authorised plugins on my system. I don't think I have ever spent more than 10 mins typing in codes etc. Sure, it's not plug & play like iLok, but unless you're installing hundreds of plugins, I don't see how you could be wasting hours of your time. I mean, you're already taking time to install the software. You're adding 30 secs at most to punch in the serial no.

Then I would clone my system which would make a restore painless as I wouldn't have to be typing any serials in. The only time I wouldn't clone would be major OS changes which aren't a monthly occurrence.

Meh....

[danander11]

Originally Posted by Sardi

I've always been intrigued when people say this when the iLok debate comes up.

When you migrate systems, are you restoring from a clone or installing everything from scratch? If it's the latter, surely the time it takes to install the actual plugins themselves is the time consuming aspect.

I have a mixture of iLok, serial no. and C&R authorised plugins on my system. I don't think I have ever spent more than 10 mins typing in codes etc. Sure, it's not plug & play like iLok, but unless you're installing hundreds of plugins, I don't see how you could be wasting hours of your time. I mean, you're already taking time to install the software. You're adding 30 secs at most to punch in the serial no.

Then I would clone my system which would make a restore painless as I wouldn't have to be typing any serials in. The only time I wouldn't clone would be major OS changes which aren't a monthly occurrence.

Meh....

Usually I clone/restore/etc... This time, it was a completly new build going up from a 2.1 Mac Pro that won't run Mountain Lion, to a new hackintosh that does... (very well I might add). So this time it was a brand new install across the board with a couple of clones along the way to make it easy should I have problems in the future.

Edit: I forgot to add.. even if I only spend one hour a year, (or two or three), re-authorizing plugs.. hasn't an iLok already paid for itself? And if I have more than one computer I use to do my work on, one at home, one at work, one laptop for travel times... I can carry the same setup everywhere I go. No necessary for a lot of folks, but still.. In th eend, you just have to go with what works for you. To me it just seems that a lot of folks tend to be short-sighted when it comes to issues like this.

[Sardi]

Originally Posted by danander11

I forgot to add.. even if I only spend one hour a year, (or two or three), re-authorizing plugs.. hasn't an iLok already paid for itself?

Sure. It's not the cost I was debating, more so the amount of time people say it saves. The latter has NEVER been a real issue for me.

And if I have more than one computer I use to do my work on, one at home, one at work, one laptop for travel times... I can carry the same setup everywhere I go. No necessary for a lot of folks, but still.. In th eend, you just have to go with what works for you. To me it just seems that a lot of folks tend to be short-sighted when it comes to issues like this.

Same here. Although the way I do this, is I clone my main studio rig to a 2.5" drive, pop the drive in an ext. USB case, then I boot from that on my laptop if I'm on the road, travelling etc. I prefer to keep my audio stuff seperate. It's like 1 min to reboot the machine.

I'm pretty crazy with dedicating seperate Macs for specific tasks. I have an iMac in the studio, an iMac for net and general home stuff, a MacBook Air for DJing, a MacBook for general mobile stuff & a Mac Mini as a HTPC.

Mental huh?

[zedhed]

Originally Posted by Sardi

I have an iMac in the studio, an iMac for net and general home stuff, a MacBook Air for DJing, a MacBook for general mobile stuff & a Mac Mini as a HTPC.

Mental huh?

A Mac for lunch, and a partridge in a pear tree

[Sardi]

HAHAHA!!

Jokes aside though, keeping everything separate has resulted in never having issues.

Bit of a pain keeping on top of where data is stored and backups though.