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Old 10-19-2019, 08:55 AM
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Thank you JFreak, the.engineer & Darryl Ramm for responding. I really appreciate you guys helping me.

I guess that I’m afraid that if I lose my TDM processing, I won’t be able to mix big sessions or track without noticeable latency with a native system. I would define latency as “noticeable” latency. Once things start sounding phasey in the headphones, it’s hard for me to look at the drummer or singer and tell them to just deal with it. I don’t get any noticeable latency with my TDM system unless I have a big native plugin on my master bus.

I read compatibility specs and I’m finding that most new plugins require a higher version of PT and Mac OS and aren’t supported on my system.

I also need longer delay compensation. I can’t run a big native plug like Slate VTM without getting into the red.

From what I understand, only 4 GB of ram can be allocated to PT 10. I was under the impression that PT 10.3.8 was as high as I could go without my rig "blowing up”. So, even though I have 10 GB of RAM in my computer, I’m only using 4 of them for PT.

Can a current native system perform as well as my old TDM system when it comes "noticeable” latency and plugin processing? I'm so used to using mostly all TDM plugins, loading up those TDM chips and everything runs just fine with no errors. Admittedly, I’m ill-informed with what native can do these days. If I can get by without having to drop the $4500 on an HDX card, I’d be ecstatic.

Regarding my interface: I was also under the impression that my blue 192 interface would not be compatible with a newer version of PT. Am I wrong?

Thanks again you guys!!
Buy a used hdx card. Actually buy used everything. Hdx will get you .7 rtl. Translation, no noticeable latency
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:15 AM
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Analog has latency. Just because the speed of light is relatively fast, there is still latency. I mean if you had a cable say 186,000 miles long, you would get a full second of latency. Better to stick with hdx and smaller cables for less latency than analog!
Sure, I like to run my cables several times around the world to reach the box one meter away
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:31 AM
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Blue 192 today runs fine with all DigiLink systems and all newer versions of Pro Tools.
If I understand you correctly, I'll just need to buy the DigiLink ($299) license?

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What *exact* model code/EMC is your Mac Pro? Do you have a Metal compatible GPU? (You can find all you need to know online about upgrading a Cheesegrater to Mojave).
I think the EMC is "2314-2*"

I'm not sure how to tell if my GPU is metal compatible. It's the original graphics card, so I'm assuming no. James has this one: "AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB". I guess it would just replace my current graphics card and then I'd be Metal compatible? :)

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Old 10-19-2019, 09:32 AM
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Analog has latency. Just because the speed of light is relatively fast, there is still latency. I mean if you had a cable say 186,000 miles long, you would get a full second of latency. Better to stick with hdx and smaller cables for less latency than analog!
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:35 AM
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Buy a used hdx card. Actually buy used everything. Hdx will get you .7 rtl. Translation, no noticeable latency
So just an HDX "core" card?

Thanks for your help!!
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:38 AM
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So just an HDX "core" card?
All HDX are "core" cards if you want to think about the old concepts
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:41 AM
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So just an HDX "core" card?

Thanks for your help!!
Just buy a card if you want to go HDX, used or new. There really is no "core" card, there is only one type of card. Avid persisting with the "core" naming is a little confusing.
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:57 AM
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Thank you!
Trying to get up to speed here shows me how far back in the dark ages I am!
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Old 10-20-2019, 02:30 PM
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Catalina is out already


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Old 10-21-2019, 07:56 AM
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Sounds to me like you should stay TDM.
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