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Old 07-09-2001, 11:19 PM
Rollerex Rollerex is offline
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Default C-24 Monitor section

Am I the only one who thinks the monitor section should have alot more gain.
I have a Bryston 4B and the C24 at fill up with the stereo bus in the Red is at about 1/4 of the Bryston output.
I havent taken any measurements to see what the output level is coming out of the C24 nor does the Bryston have meters. Just two leds a green for signal present and red for outta headroom. What Amp Speakers do you guys use?
Will the C24 power them to full?
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Old 07-10-2001, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: C-24 Monitor section

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rollerex:
Am I the only one who thinks the monitor section should have alot more gain.
I have a Bryston 4B and the C24 at fill up with the stereo bus in the Red is at about 1/4 of the Bryston output.
I havent taken any measurements to see what the output level is coming out of the C24 nor does the Bryston have meters. Just two leds a green for signal present and red for outta headroom. What Amp Speakers do you guys use?
Will the C24 power them to full?
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I have a NAD on ALT monitor and Alesis Matica 900 (2*250) on main, and this is OK for me.
I saw a post from a guy having the same trouble as you about 2 weeks ago "Specs not as advertised" or something like this.

BTW, is your Mono button working normaly ?
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Old 07-10-2001, 08:17 PM
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Hi!
I tryed mine today and went direct to my Paradim speakers (self amp.)and everything was O.K.
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Old 07-11-2001, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: C-24 Monitor section

Please see my post C24 Not as advertised spec. You are not alone and this problem is SERIOUS. I am still awaiting a response from Digi on this matter.
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Old 07-11-2001, 02:12 AM
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Dear Mas

Please try comparing the output from your control 24 with the output from an 888 if you have one, and let me know the results? Im pretty certain there will be a major difference. The 888 being true +4db and the C24 being nowhere near.
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Old 07-11-2001, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: C-24 Monitor section

i noticed the difference, it was quite considerable. i am running dynaudio BM15a's and straight out of the interface they are much louder.
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Old 07-12-2001, 01:54 AM
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thanks for the info 8bit.

I would recomend that all C24 users do the simple test as outlined above and read my previous mail on this subject as I am sure Digi would have us believe that its not important. In my opinion it is a huge error on Digis part allowing this console to go into production with an output as low as -15db (or 19db down on an 888s output). Its like being sold a 30 ips multitrack and finding out that it only records at 15 ips and being told that its ok by the dealer!!!.

Come on Digi - over to you
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Old 07-12-2001, 06:07 AM
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Default Re: C-24 Monitor section

The couple of things that annoy me about the control24 are
1) The lower level of the outputs
2) The noise that seems to come and go from the outputs. This has been mentioned a few times a digital clock sound.
3) The terrible finish. It looks as though I have had it for years.

Of course we will not get any answers and will have to pay an upgrade to fix it later like the pro control users had to.

Come on it is +4db or -10db or switchable not whatever the output is????
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Old 07-12-2001, 07:16 AM
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Dear Dave

I sincerely hope you are wrong about Digi not taking this seriously. If this is the case they will receive a substantial bill from me as my whole room was built around a console that I cant currently utilise in the manner intended.

As for the finish issue as Im not using mine its not a prob for me as yet but there have been so many comments about it you can be sure I'll be keeping a close eye on it.

Re your last comment, if the C24 was +4 or -10 that would be rectifyable. The problem is its neither.

All I can suggest is that if we keep bringing this up Digi will have to start talking to us. I for one, am not impressed by their continued silence on this issue.
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Old 07-12-2001, 05:09 PM
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My guess is that to fix this would require a new monitor section circuit board.

I haven't opened up the C24 but I assume surface mount integrated circuits for the monitor section.

Not like the old days where you could change some components for more gain.

As it is I might need to modify mt Bryston amp
or have an external "gain box" made to give the monitor outs a boost.

No you didn't "hijack" my post this is where we share information to make things better!
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