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02-08-2018, 04:10 PM
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Fix wow & flutter?
I just got booked for some restoration/mastering of analog reels, dats, and
 audio cassettes. They have already been digitized (tapes were baked etc.) by a good engineer, and will be given to me as files. I have not heard any of it yet. The client tells me one of the cassette transfers has wow and flutter (probably only wow). QUESTION: is there anyway to fix the wow? None that I am aware of...Help !!!
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02-08-2018, 04:13 PM
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Re: Fix wow & flutter?
Celemony.com
Capstan
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02-08-2018, 04:19 PM
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Re: Fix wow & flutter?
Be prepared......
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02-08-2018, 05:06 PM
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Re: Fix wow & flutter?
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Can't speak as to it's ability to 'fix the wow' but it sure elicited a couple from me. 
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02-08-2018, 05:10 PM
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Re: Fix wow & flutter?
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So, if it's a continuing project, you own it in no time... What kind of project doesn't let you ding the client $40/day for tools that make the work possible...? Maybe I'm misreading your intent? "Be prepared...?" C'mon.
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02-08-2018, 05:57 PM
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Re: Fix wow & flutter?
As Celemony Capstan costs US $4,458/or 5-day Rental US $199
http://www.celemony.com/en/capstan http://assets.celemony.com/assets/e/...an_English.pdf I’d first be looking at https://goodhertz.co/faq#how-do-the-free-trials-work Goodhertz WOW Control US$129 https://goodhertz.co/wow-ctrl (I haven’t used either)
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02-08-2018, 06:51 PM
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Re: Fix wow & flutter?
Woops!!
Looks like Celemony wins. Appears Goodhertz WOW Control = add some WOW! This is closer (but what's the price?) Plangent Processes https://www.plangentprocesses.com https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/2aa44...2e0327fb6c.pdf https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/2aa44...d1390c2067.pdf
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#8
12-18-2020, 05:48 PM
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Re: Fix wow & flutter?
Well, now I need to deal with wow&flutter again, for another gig. Izotope RX 8 Advanced now includes "Wow & Flutter". $599 upgrade from RX Standard, which is what I currently have. I suppose that's my best option, but it's really expensive. Does anyone here have this? Does it work? Any advice? Thanks.
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#9
03-15-2021, 03:01 PM
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Re: Fix wow & flutter?
Closure to an old thread: I ended up surgically fixing the portion of wow (not really flutter) with Melodyne, polyphonic mode, pitch and also pitch modulation edits. It took a while, but it mostly worked out.
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#10
03-17-2021, 05:20 PM
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Re: Fix wow & flutter?
i like Wow, gives a nice analog feeling... IF its under +/-20cents,
Technics SL-1200 Mk2 turntables good repaired have +/-5cents... most other turntables gemini, stanton st.150, denon, pioneer plx1000, have direct drive from same china design manufacturer, ReLoop or other name i cant remember... Onmisomething... same PCB.... those have best case scenario +/-10cents. more than 30c becomes annoying, +/-40cents its a Technics about to fail. tested with Ultimate Analog Test LP 1Khz tone, Not the traditional 3KHz tone... higher the frequency has less wow... Latest DJ software that use a TimeCode Vinyl eliminate Wow, older Not, DJDecks 0.99 was amazing to impregnate Wow to a Pure Digital file. VirtualDJ7 was ok, but Not as good. older Rate Serato... its like Salt & Sugar... too much is bad, too little its tasteless.
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