Routing Automation - Why Isn't this Done?!

[audiograce]

Hey all...

Long time user, (Former Digi employee)...

Quick question:
Why isn't everyone in the post community making noise about the single biggest omission in Pro Tools mixing for the post community?

Routing and Pre/Post fader switch automation are important parts of everyday post mixing ... I'm aware that there are work arounds, but work arounds do not a complete toolset make.

Am I the only one who thinks this way? Looking forward to your ideas.

[MIKEROPHONICS]

Routing auto was necessary on the DFC as the DSP was limited in the early days and the track count from sources was very expensive. A 16 track ams audiofile was £70k. Along came PT and the hardware became cheaper, then he desk dsp and IO became cheaper. So the only point of routing auto was to save £ on limited source count.
These days have another 200 tracks for £7K - it's peanuts.
Plus if you have ever tried to sort dirty stems with routing auto on them it as a nightmare!


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[dr sound]

Originally Posted by MIKEROPHONICS

Routing auto was necessary on the DFC as the DSP was limited in the early days and the track count from sources was very expensive. A 16 track ams audiofile was £70k. Along came PT and the hardware became cheaper, then he desk dsp and IO became cheaper. So the only point of routing auto was to save £ on limited source count.
These days have another 200 tracks for £7K - it's peanuts.
Plus if you have ever tried to sort dirty stems with routing auto on them it as a nightmare!


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Mike,
Audiograce is a Re- Recording Mixer at Warner Brothers's
He just replaced a 80 fader Neve DFC ( that was used on the Matrix ).
He just replaced it with an 80 Fader S6 and he brings up a
very valid point.

[MIKEROPHONICS]

Not sure what you are trying to say there Marti?

I offered an explanation of why I think it was originally created and hasn't been done in PT and is lower priority or may not really be necessary.

Are my 15 years on AMS desks (Logics 1 2 and 3 not valid just because the old dfc I worked on for 6 years was only 60 faders and didn't mix "the matrix" - really?

Honestly anyone would think that if I wasn't you then I am not qualified to have an opinion.

I was not being disrespectful of anyone's job title or experience, but I think you are alluding to such behaviour.
Shame on you really


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[dr sound]

WTF Mike? You really are off the mark!
I was giving you background on Audiograce
That way MAYBE you would be able to relate !
I WAS NOT PUTTING YOU DOWN!!!!

[Drew Mazurek]

Isn't the fact that you can automate a channel from feeding a buss to feeding an object with the Atmos implementation a sign that it can be done? And might be added for regular I/O at some point? Or are they not the same in some way? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[audiograce]

Originally Posted by MIKEROPHONICS

Not sure what you are trying to say there Marti?

I offered an explanation of why I think it was originally created and hasn't been done in PT and is lower priority or may not really be necessary.

Are my 15 years on AMS desks (Logics 1 2 and 3 not valid just because the old dfc I worked on for 6 years was only 60 faders and didn't mix "the matrix" - really?

Honestly anyone would think that if I wasn't you then I am not qualified to have an opinion.

I was not being disrespectful of anyone's job title or experience, but I think you are alluding to such behaviour.
Shame on you really


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I think Marti is just trying to give you some background.

Basically... I know the DFC as well as most. I'm familiar with what it does and why. However, your explanation about the origins of routing automation doesn't answer the question.

Routing automation is still valid and is extremely useful.

No one that I've seen is this thread is questioning anyone's expertise.

And seriously? Shame on you? Come on dad, be cool!

Now... to the point:
Does everyone else here just drag audio to other tracks when they need a reassign? Or does everyone just use pre-fader sends and mute between where they want to send material?

Please... let's try to be constructive here.

[audiograce]

Originally Posted by Drew Mazurek

Isn't the fact that you can automate a channel from feeding a buss to feeding an object with the Atmos implementation a sign that it can be done? And might be added for regular I/O at some point? Or are they not the same in some way? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Zackly!

In point of fact, since we can assign 10 (post fader) multichannel sends to each channel, and then pan between them as required, the functionality is already (almost) built in. No?

Anyone at Avid wanna chime in here?

[Drew Mazurek]

Originally Posted by audiograce

Anyone at Avid wanna chime in here?

Hopefully they're busy working on routing assignment automation!!

[audiograce]

Originally Posted by Drew Mazurek

Hopefully they're busy working on routing assignment automation!!