Pro Tools has become a nightmare (Windows)

[atticmike]

I really don't know what Mac users' experience currently is but on my Windows system, this DAW has become a nightmare.

There are a lot of random bugs, sometimes the playback won't work anymore and the worst bug I've had so far is when PT says it doesn't have enough CPU power to run (asks me to deactivate plugins) while the CPU meter in PT is peggin at 100% and my taskmanager is only reporting 2-3%. After closing and reopening Pro Tools it is gone.

I'm really wondering where all the great improvements have gone to because if the DAW keeps working like this, I'll have to consider something like Studio One or Cubase.

What still baffles me to this day is that many many changes you do within the DAW while editing a session are irreversible, like there is no editing history of it. In most other daws, you can reverse every change you've done.

I just lose a lot of time on bugs and issues the DAW creates and nobody is paying me for that while I have to invest so much money every year on Ultimate to just get some small feature updates while so many things are left unattended. I feel like I'm wasting my money here and time increasingly.

[cwsand]

Originally Posted by atticmike

I really don't know what Mac users' experience currently is but on my Windows system, this DAW has become a nightmare.

Not having any of the issues you're describing on my Mac system. If you'd like some assistance, start here: Help Us Help You and provide as much info about your system and problems as possible.

[philgrab]

Originally Posted by atticmike

I really don't know what Mac users' experience currently is but on my Windows system, this DAW has become a nightmare.

There are a lot of random bugs, sometimes the playback won't work anymore and the worst bug I've had so far is when PT says it doesn't have enough CPU power to run (asks me to deactivate plugins) while the CPU meter in PT is peggin at 100% and my taskmanager is only reporting 2-3%. After closing and reopening Pro Tools it is gone.

I'm really wondering where all the great improvements have gone to because if the DAW keeps working like this, I'll have to consider something like Studio One or Cubase.

What still baffles me to this day is that many many changes you do within the DAW while editing a session are irreversible, like there is no editing history of it. In most other daws, you can reverse every change you've done.

I just lose a lot of time on bugs and issues the DAW creates and nobody is paying me for that while I have to invest so much money every year on Ultimate to just get some small feature updates while so many things are left unattended. I feel like I'm wasting my money here and time increasingly.

I've seen some weird stuff in this latest version on Windows 10. Drag and dropping a copy of a plugin to another track locks up the interface. Interface becomes non responsive. They did get rid of the reboot problem but introduced some new problems it seems. Had not seen any of this prior and the last version, except for the reboot problem, was stable during operation. All of this on a very powerful Intel based desktop machine with i9 CPU with 10 cores. Same machine which was stable on the last rev, suddenly lock up with problems and also getting the CPU "not enough processing" error. Are you kidding me? 32GB of RAM as well. Pretty disappointed in Avid right now.

[cwsand]

Originally Posted by philgrab

I've seen some weird stuff in this latest version on Windows 10. Drag and dropping a copy of a plugin to another track locks up the interface. Interface becomes non responsive. They did get rid of the reboot problem but introduced some new problems it seems. Had not seen any of this prior and the last version, except for the reboot problem, was stable during operation. All of this on a very powerful Intel based desktop machine with i9 CPU with 10 cores. Same machine which was stable on the last rev, suddenly lock up with problems and also getting the CPU "not enough processing" error. Are you kidding me? 32GB of RAM as well. Pretty disappointed in Avid right now.

I used Pro Tools for several years on Windows until I switched to Mac a few years ago and I have to say, in my experience it's definitely more solid on Mac. Not to say there aren't any problems, but I don't see as many crashes on Mac.

[albee1952]

Originally Posted by atticmike

I really don't know what Mac users' experience currently is but on my Windows system, this DAW has become a nightmare.

There are a lot of random bugs, sometimes the playback won't work anymore and the worst bug I've had so far is when PT says it doesn't have enough CPU power to run (asks me to deactivate plugins) while the CPU meter in PT is peggin at 100% and my taskmanager is only reporting 2-3%. After closing and reopening Pro Tools it is gone.

I'm really wondering where all the great improvements have gone to because if the DAW keeps working like this, I'll have to consider something like Studio One or Cubase.

What still baffles me to this day is that many many changes you do within the DAW while editing a session are irreversible, like there is no editing history of it. In most other daws, you can reverse every change you've done.

I just lose a lot of time on bugs and issues the DAW creates and nobody is paying me for that while I have to invest so much money every year on Ultimate to just get some small feature updates while so many things are left unattended. I feel like I'm wasting my money here and time increasingly.

3 things come to mind:
1-you have given essentially zero information on your setup, what you have tried and what's really wrong.
2-maybe Pro Tools isn't the right tool for you
3-I use PT on Windows 10 and rarely have any issues at all

[EGS]

Originally Posted by albee1952

...I use PT on Windows 10 and rarely have any issues at all

Same here.

Make sure to:
Update all plugs & device drivers to latest versions.
Turn off all unnecessary Windows junk in settings.
Uninstall bloatware.
Disable all Win 10 unnecessary startup items.
All AVID optimizations.

[grayter1]

Originally Posted by albee1952

3-I use PT on Windows 10 and rarely have any issues at all

I have to say the same. No issues and running fine here. My system is super stable.

tg

[lgreen100]

Originally Posted by albee1952

I use PT on Windows 10 and rarely have any issues at all

No issues with me as well!

Pro Tools Native 2019.12, Win 10 1903, i7-8700 4.6GHz, 32 GB ram, Samsung & WD HDs, ESI Julia PCIe 24/192 audio, AMD R7 200 2GB video.

[philgrab]

Just jumping back on the thread to provide additional information for Windows users. I found the general source of my issues. Using the same file in the prior version compared to the most recent version of PT, I had several VSTs preloaded in my basic songwriting template i.e. Superior Drummer 3, Keyscape, Omnisphere, Atmosphere and Trillian. This was not an issue in the prior version of PT but for some reason, the latest version has a problem which causes the screen to lock up and then go white followed by the "Wait for PT or Close" window. Initially on load up things work but adding even one plug in will lock things up. So it's a memory leak problem with multiple VSTs or they changed the operating limit.

Once I unload all of the above and use just one VST at a time, the issue is resolved. I will have to print or unload/bypass as I work. It's the only work around I've found.

[atticmike]

Standard stuff, W10 on a 9900K running with Lynx Auroras

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