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Re: New Avid live console announced: S3L!
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Re: New Avid live console announced: S3L!
There seems to be no 'Fat Channel' How does one get to the eq's, dynamics and such? Just with the mouse?
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Re: New Avid live console announced: S3L!
I will second not liking the S3L surface. It is hard to look at compared to the other live consoles that using varying colors to define a section on the desk. For live sound you need to be able to get to EQ, dynamics, and sends quickly. I am sure this board makes sense to a studio guy that is use to things being displayed horizontally on a scribble strip, but there is a reason that the Soundcraft Si expression, Behringer X32, and other considerably less expensive consoles have the EQ and dynamics in a defined section that is easily identifiable and never changes. I am not sure if they think that everyone in live sound mixes with a mouse... Anyway, I am not inclined to want to mix on it for live sound. Maybe they can make a small EQ/Dynamics "sidecar" that sits next to the S3L similar to a usb keypad for laptops.
Maybe, once they get a video up on the workflow for the desk I could be persuaded otherwise. I would really like to see a workflow as a monitor desk. To be able to get 64 inputs into a setup this small with 64 channels of recording capability at the $28k price is a no-brainer. Especially, if the workflow on monitors is pretty fluid. To get a monitor desk setup at our church to handle the number of inputs we would need would cost twice as much as the S3L setup. Second the small form factor would be very accommodating for tight stage setups. It's a little disappointing to see a stage box with only 16 inputs analog and 8 analog outputs. Seems like more of a revenue driver than anything else. (I know they are in the business to make money. I am fine with that.) I guess there is a market out there for small bands with less than 16 inputs that have an extra $18k?? But you can get a Midas Pro2 w/ 48in and 16out for around $16k. On a positive note, the modular concept is awesome! It will be great to see how the AVB protocol interfaces with house processors, amps and speaker boxes Does anyone know how the network is suppose to be setup? Run everything through a layer3 network switch or you can only daisy chain the boxes? It appears that there are only two network ports on each device except for the E3 meaning that everything would have to run in a daisy-chain to achieve redundancy, unless it ran through a switch. Does the setup interface with the Remote Stage48? I am guessing that it is the same AVB protocol and should be able to. Can the Remote Stage48 and the S3L boxes live on the same network? How about interfacing with myMix? Just my thoughts..... |
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Also system being modular will kind of hint us, that there might come other components that can be swapped out Lets not forget this is the baby we are looking at right now. BTW, the stage box is not just 16/8 analog, it jas AES too. And again system being modular, I think this is a great way for us to only pay for what we need. So if my channel count never exceeds 32 inputs but is pretty much always over 16 I can get the two-rack setup and will not be paying for mic pres I don't need (like If I did a fixed 48 input desk). I would enjoy more outputs though, so I might be forced to use copper snake to send some more output channels to stage when doing In-Ears/monitors from FOH, but that's not too often and 16 outs on stage can still go a long way. Here is one of the first videos, Sheldon is showing the system: http://youtu.be/uBkjhp-Bt3w |
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In Australia, at least, it's roughly $4000, or 17%, cheaper than an SC48. As a small sound company with existing copper infrastructure, I'd probably buy another SC48 over this.
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If it's truly targeting people who are doing fly dates, is there that big of a market of groups that have the budget to fly in audio engineers but not hire their preferred audio desk locally? The problem a few people I know are having is that for venues, and some companies, that bought a Profile when they were launched, is that they're now getting budgets for a new desk. They're not going to buy another Profile because it's design is so old, but have to spend the money they have in the next short period. They want to stay with Avid but they haven't released a new frame in the same market as the Profile...whereas other companies have released one, if not several. The engineers who like Avid are having a hard battle to convince them to not go another option. |
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All Digital FOH to Monitor Split option w/ S3L????
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Re: New Avid live console announced: S3L!
... I mean a traditional Monitors/House split but all digital...
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I feel like they would need to be able to expand this with another control. I understand this is the "Baby", but I say one or two extra. It is EuCON, and Avid can move a lot of units that way. However, this will still be a great system.
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Re: New Avid live console announced: S3L!
There's a short new Sweetwater video about this. It may answer a few more questions that may or may not have been answered. Looks very interesting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=EvkzrviZKj8 |
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Re: New Avid live console announced: S3L!
This console is awesome. Good work Avid.
But for live applications it would be almost neccesary to have the possibility to connect and operate with 2 surfaces at the same time... The competition offers this also on "baby" consoles so this is no excuse... If it is possible please add this in the future... |
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