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Old 08-30-2011, 01:22 AM
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Default Strike: Part Retrigger

I usually turn off "Part Retrigger" in Strike (Version 1.5), but I need it on for now.
I am triggering patterns with long single MIDI notes, and when it comes to a new MIDI note it retriggers the pattern and makes a strange noise at the start of the pattern. Kind of like an out of phase doubling.
A good way to hear this is to solo a Kick on the 1 and 3 1/4 notes. If I manually play the same pattern I don't hear the strange noise.
I am on PT 9.05, Mac 10.6.8, but I noticed it before on eariler versions.
Could someone that has and knows Strike please try this?
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Strike: Part Retrigger

Hello, Russ, anybody.....

I find that playing with the "Feel" knob changes the characteristic of the problem that at this point I would describe as a doubling of the drum (e.g. kick) at the head of each pattern when triggered by a MIDI note. (with part retrigger on)
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:31 PM
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Can this be reproduced with Pro Tools 9.0.3?
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Old 08-31-2011, 12:09 AM
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Can this be reproduced with Pro Tools 9.0.3?
Yes, I believe so. I think it came about in Strike 1.5. It would be nice to get a verification so I know I am not doing something stupid.
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Strike: Part Retrigger

If you have Part Retrigger Off set Groove Change Grid to 1/4 Note. Does that solve the kick retriggering sound?
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Strike: Part Retrigger

The problem of drum doubling at the head of the pattern only happens when "Part Retrigger" is on, no matter what you do with the other settings.

I notice some old posts from 2008 that seem to be talking about the same thing.

I am setting up my sessions so that I can leave "Part Retrigger" off for now.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:02 AM
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Under what circumstances are you requiring Part Retrigger On?
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Old 09-01-2011, 08:23 AM
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Under what circumstances are you requiring Part Retrigger On?
If you start a session with a 1 measure pattern, Strike sometimes will not see the first pattern or align to the next pattern. Also when you are working/editing you have to be careful to click in the right place to align the drums. With Part Retrigger set to on, Strike will always align correctly to the next MIDI note. I think that the whole Strike sync/pattern aligment system has some bugs in it.
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:02 PM
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If you start a session with a 1 measure pattern, Strike sometimes will not see the first pattern or align to the next pattern.
Yep, I've experienced that behaviour too.
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Also when you are working/editing you have to be careful to click in the right place to align the drums.
strangeLoop, can you post a detailed example of what you mean by clicking in the right place to align the drums? Perhaps Steps to Reproduce, please. This information will go a long way to getting this problem fixed. Ummm... I have heard that Part Retrigger is strongly recommended to be set to Off. It's default position. From the sound of things, you have been using Part Retrigger to compensate for a bug. We need to know what that bug is. Thank you.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: Strike: Part Retrigger

Good grief! I am broke and trying to make money composing music. Where is Avid and AIR in all this? They get paid to do trouble shooting and to design these products. I don't have the time.

Here is what you or anyone can do: Build up at least 2, Strike, 2 measure patterns that have an alignment signature to them. That is by listening to them you can tell where in the 2 measures they are playing. I did one with all 1/4 note kicks with a 1/8 hit at the end of measure 2, then one the same with a snare.

Setup the MIDI playback so that the 2 patterns alternate every 2 measures. Then experiment with the Strike settings and click around in the edit window, hit play, and see how sometimes the 2 patterns will stay aligned and sometimes they won't.

Then put one measure of a 2 measure pattern at the head of a song and experiment with that.

Then put an intro pattern (a 1 measure pattern) at the head of a song. (sometimes this works OK)

Then make an original one measure intro pattern (tricky to do) and put that at the head of a song.

All while experimenting with the Strike settings and keeping notes.
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