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Re: Conumdrum: New Mac Pro?
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Go to http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/mac-pro, select the $2999 quad-core option on the left, and you can then select any of 4, 6, 8, or 12 cores while keeping D300 GPU. |
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Re: Conumdrum: New Mac Pro?
Correct. By just upgrading that to the 6 core the price is a somewhat reasonable $3500.
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Re: Conumdrum: New Mac Pro?
OK. I thought you were saying that Apple wouldn't let you order a d300 at all unless you picked the 4 core option.
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Re: Conumdrum: New Mac Pro?
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Long story short my guess would be that for the budget you are talking about the 12c would be worth it. It's certainly diminishing returns per dollar, but so is HDX. But when you need the extra and the work is paying for it then it's worth it, and when you need more voices you need more HDX cards. I understand all the reasons not to go windows, and/or hack, but for 11 especially and even more so for those who don't need the lowest two buffer settings, a dual 12c is going to be an absolute monster...not that I'll be doing it, I like OSX that much more. My rough guess assuming nothing is flawed with the nMP for audio is that if you go PT10 to PT10 a 12c nMP will be about double the native power at 44.1/128 or 96/256 than the 2.26 8c. Last edited by RyanC; 12-20-2013 at 02:37 AM. |
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Re: Conumdrum: New Mac Pro?
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EDIT: re-read we are saying the same thing I think? I was only suggesting that audio guys not using opengl should start with the 4c and upgrade the proc, because with the base 6c you are paying for a GPU that most of us (even post guys) probably don't need. Last edited by RyanC; 12-20-2013 at 02:40 AM. |
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Re: Conumdrum: New Mac Pro?
hi
Last edited by RyanC; 12-20-2013 at 02:35 AM. Reason: double |
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Re: Conumdrum: New Mac Pro?
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I am not maxing the HDX card yet, I am using about 70% but since I just got Revibe, I will be using several instances of Revibe DSP and stop using Native verbs (my machine can not handle any more Native plugs). Once I start using Revibe DSP (on my next film that starts today) , I will max out the HDX card. Also, Nugen ISL will soon be DSP (that is what I heard) so I will be using several instances of it also DSP. My work is indie films and my last film, which was a sci-fi/horror, used almost all the 256 voices so I am thinking of adding another HDX card to up the voice count to 512. I need a machine that is reliability and fast to boot up. Windows would be much, much cheaper, As business, it would make total sense to run Windows and save as much as $7000 dollars on hardware (trip to Caribbean instead?) but for me OSX is the way to go (unless I change my mind and go windows purely as a business reason). Lastly, someone said that Apple may license the OSX to run on a Windows machine legally? any info on this? |
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Re: Conumdrum: New Mac Pro?
My impression...
In this scenario it actually looks like more DSP power will address your issues right now (even with your current machine since VI's are not an issue). Native verbs are the power hungry ones. Put those on your card and see how much different things are. Most of the bread and butter stuff (EQ, Delay, Comp in Native) are super CPU friendly (at least the likes of AVID stuff and Softube for instance). Regardless it looks like you are headed to a second HDx card for voice reasons so why not put it into your current set up? The 12c will of course be a great machine for you and in this application HDx2 + 12 core - why not (its just money ... But after HDx2 even the new hex core might be just fine too. PS>> in this scenario does buffer 64 really help make the machine more responsive (- really I don't know so no problem if I am wrong but it looks like a lot of extra CPU load for very little gain)? Latency is not an issue. PT11 w/64G ram and fuull timeline cache (is this enough?) looks like more the ticket to super responsive system and kick the buffer to the weeds... 1024
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Re: Conumdrum: New Mac Pro?
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Yes, I bought Revibe DSP to put the load of the verbs on the HDX card, I will be using a combination of stereo and 5/1 Revibe instances (may be 3 stereo and 2 surround). Right now I am running about 180 tracks with Avid's Channel strip -not my favorite but usable for all sfx, Foley, and ambient tracks and it is DSP (so that load goes on the HDX card). My DX tracks, which I usually have about 12 per film have this chain per track: Equality, CEDAR DNS (2 stacks), and the Avid de-esser because it is DSP (I hardly use the de-esser as I do the esses manually). My auxes are: DX in mono, DX in stereo, DX special effects with inserts of PSP echo, delay, special verbs, futz, etc. music aux 5/1, sfx aux 5/1. My dx auxes have plugs starting with Equality, CEDAR dns one, and Nugen ISL (just for ISL peaks as I do all dialogue micro-dynamics manually). I also run full video 1920X1080 either Pro-Res or Avid codec. When I had TDM Accel 2 all of my plugins were Native and the machine was not choking, very similar set up as I have now with the same plugins as I have now (except Revibe which I just got). Since I went HDX 1, may be because the extra 64 voices, my machine chokes all the time. I can only run a few native plugs like my equality and DNS, but if I put in for example a convolution such as the IRL it'll start to slowdown and become un-stable. I tried using the Waves 360 verb, and it was no go, machine just says running out of CPU remove plugs, same with Revolver, I still have to try Reverberator which I also have. So, based on what I am experiencing I think I need a faster CPU, especially if I do get a second HDX card. The better option would be to get plugins that I could load to the HDX card but that is not happening as developers appear not to be porting to HDX that much. |
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