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Re: Recording rehearsals into PT while going through PA
^^^Yup what he said
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Re: Recording rehearsals into PT while going through PA
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Thank you for the reply. Yes I now realize as you mentioned, I will need more preamps than the 2 in the front of the MOTU, in order to fully setup for rehearsal recording. I am thinking about getting an 8 channel rack mounted preamp unit that I can daisy chain into the MOTU 828 so as to expand the number of preamps I have available. This would help for the rehearsal recording as well as enable me to record a fully miked drum kit down the line when we’re ready to record out album. But for rehearsal purposes however all we’re doing drum wise is VI drums through Pro Tools, or perhaps 1 drum mic in the room to capture a quick idea on acoustic drums. Which 8 channel preamp unit would you recommend for this? In addition to recording rehearsals, as mentioned we’ll be using it to record album quality drums for a record at some point down the line. So far I’m considering: - MOTU 8pre (https://tinyurl.com/yxh3wjph) - Focusrite 18I20 (https://tinyurl.com/y25ryrmt) Would either of these work for my purposes? And be close to good enough quality as the pre’s on my 828mkiii? I managed to get the QSC’s into my Pro Tools rig via a secondary out and additional master fader, which is a cool first step bc now I have the KRK monitors as one out and the QSC’s as another. I think once I have figured out which preamp unit to get, I will do as you guys are suggesting and just go direct into the DAW rig, bypassing the Yamaha mixer. It seems to make the most sense based on what you guys are kindly explaining to me. For bass I’ll plan to go DI out of my Orange Terror bass head and into a channel on whatever preamp unit I end up with. Same goes for guitar. Thank you and any suggestions on the above preamp considerations, as well as others you have in mind, would be most appreciated! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Re: Recording rehearsals into PT while going through PA
OK I like where you are going.
I like MOTU products, Focusrite make decent stuff as well. Some of it tends to be targeted downmarket a bit more. Focusrite have messed up some driver stuff in the past, not directly relevant here and all vendors have problem at times. I have not used either Pre/ADAT/USB box and would suggest you take advice from folks who have. If You wanted to go with a Focusrite product you might also want to also consider the Clarett OctoPre. Other users here have said good things about the Audient pre/ADAT units in the past. In this price range I suspect the units may be similar in pre-amp performance, but that's something you want feedback on from folks who have used them. The MOTU ADAT preamp has two pairs of TOSLINK ports on the rear panel and so will support SMUX for higher sample rates. Not a show stopper but can be a nice flexibility thing to have. And unlike other ADAT units both of these are also a USB interfaces so handy if you want to split them up and use separately. The Focusrite has direct line out from the preamps that can also be a handy thing in situations, but here you don't need it yet... but say if you had ambitions to do more micing of a drum kit you might max out the ADAT input on the Motu 828 and need to free some of those analog inputs from preamps... but you can deal with that later if needed. The Motu 828 Mk III has DI input options on both of its preamps so that means you don't need to worry about that on the ADAT preamp box... assuming you may record guitar and bass DI (OK the Terror Bass has line level DI Out, so that saves you one DI/preamp... you go straight into a line level input with that *not* a preamp like a usual DI box/you seem to be describing above) the 828 may have better preamps than your ADAT box, so play and see what you want to use say for vocals etc. Then if you don't have this stuff the next steps will be buying microphone$, microphone and PA cables, mic stands, sound treatments like gobo panels, headphones/IEM if needed etc. If you are moving this stuff to and from a rehearsal space think about getting a mobile 19" rack/shipping rack so you can protect the gear and leave it partially connected. Last edited by Darryl Ramm; 03-27-2019 at 01:28 AM. |
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Re: Recording rehearsals into PT while going through PA
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Thanks Darryl. I’ll check out the Clarett you mentioned and consider it alongside the others. I called Motu today about the 8 Pre usb unit. I think it will definitely do the job, and the quality of those pres are right in line with the two on my current 828. Other option is to sell the 828 and get an upgraded audio interface with 8 quality pres already built in, however I don’t see that as being necessary at this point. The Motu 8 Pre is $550 new which is a doable investment for this necessary upgrade. If I sold the 828 and put it towards something with 8 pres built in, im sure I’d end up spending more than that for something good quality. So I’m leaning toward the Motu 8 pre usb at the moment, however still considering other options. Thanks again for your suggestions, I will def keep in mind. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Re: Recording rehearsals into PT while going through PA
Sell everything and buy this.
https://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-AR16-USB Or this for more money https://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-32SC Done and done You get your live mixer and recording interface all in one. |
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