Waves V12 say goodbye to Mac Pro 2012 and earlier.

[drums77]

Exceptions & Notes:
MacPro 2012 or earlier models are not supported.

Mac
CPU
Intel Core i5 / i7 / i9 / Xeon

Memory
8 GB RAM
8 GB free disk space on the system drive

Operating System
10.13.6, 10.14.6, 10.15.7

Screen Resolution
Minimum: 1024x768
Recommended: 1280x1024 / 1600x1024
USB displays are not supported as the primary display.

[Mark Ziebarth]

I said goodbye to Waves 15 years ago..

[musicman691]

Turns out the issue is not having a Metal compatible video card - this according to Waves support. Stock 2012's don't have one. Apparently those who have switched their video cards so they can run Mojave and above aren't having problems. Waves should have been more transparent about what exactly IS the problem/requirements.


Speaking of transparency Waves only mentions cheesegraters - what about Mac Mini's or iMacs of a certain model?

[XJENSEN]

Not completely correct. I'm having problems with the Waves Tune plugin (phasing, double sound, ...) which started after upgrading to V12. So, be careful.

[Stephen Bond]

v12 Waves plugins seem to be running fine here on my Mid 2012 MBP.

Here's the specs.

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro9,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.9 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 4 MB
Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled
Memory: 16 GB
Boot ROM Version: 233.0.0.0.0
SMC Version (system): 2.2f38

Intel HD Graphics 4000:

Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics 4000
Type: GPU
Bus: Built-In
VRAM (Dynamic, Max): 1536 MB
Vendor: Intel
Device ID: 0x0166
Revision ID: 0x0009
Metal: Supported, feature set macOS GPUFamily1 v4
Displays:
Colour LCD:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1280 x 800
UI Looks like: 1280 x 800
Framebuffer Depth: 24-Bit Colour (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported
Automatically Adjust Brightness: No


Certainly a good upgrade to have. There's some plugins I can see on my small screen I couldn't see all of before. Not sure about the upscale graphics resolution as other have noted!



The preset browser is great. Going to be using that for sure!



Stephen

[DonaldM]

I'm a bit confused on this. Do you have to WUP BEFORE updating to V12? That seems to be the case.

[Becharax]

Originally Posted by Mark Ziebarth

I said goodbye to Waves 15 years ago..

What are you using mostly ?

[noah330]

I still love a lot of Waves plugins. There are probably things newer or maybe better but I've been using them for so long I just really know a lot of them well.

I upgraded my 2012 Mini Server to the new Mac Mini last year and I love the new machine even more than the old one.

One odd thing is even though I upgraded to V12 some of my plugs are still V11 (the 1 band EQ comes to mind) so maybe all of the plugs haven't been updated yet.

The one frustration I have with Waves is I have Mercury with Studio Classics and Abbey Road bundle. When I did my WUP it was expensive but the voucher they gave me to offset the cost basically was useless.

At the end of the day I don't think their pricing is so bad because last year I paid for a year subscription with Avid and didn't get any updates but had I not paid it would have cost me 1k to come back. At least with Waves you can lapse and come back when you would like to.

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by noah330

I still love a lot of Waves plugins. There are probably things newer or maybe better but I've been using them for so long I just really know a lot of them well.

I upgraded my 2012 Mini Server to the new Mac Mini last year and I love the new machine even more than the old one.

One odd thing is even though I upgraded to V12 some of my plugs are still V11 (the 1 band EQ comes to mind) so maybe all of the plugs haven't been updated yet.

The one frustration I have with Waves is I have Mercury with Studio Classics and Abbey Road bundle. When I did my WUP it was expensive but the voucher they gave me to offset the cost basically was useless.

At the end of the day I don't think their pricing is so bad because last year I paid for a year subscription with Avid and didn't get any updates but had I not paid it would have cost me 1k to come back. At least with Waves you can lapse and come back when you would like to.

Are the plugins that didn't convert all up on WUP?

[Mark Ziebarth]

Originally Posted by Becharax

What are you using mostly ?

There’s more than enough competition for Waves and I stopped using them after I put my Mix system out of work 2005. Their license policy (WUP) etc. and the price to quality ratio of their new products in a growing plug-in market didn’t work for me.
I‘m using the Avid stock plugs a lot and have a Soundtoys and an Izotope bundle and the Massey plugs.
Waves was essential when TDM started but is one choice besides others now.