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Old 01-04-2011, 12:27 AM
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Default PTHD9 Plugin controls become unresponsive.

Couldn't seem to find any threads on this so I'm hoping it's not just me that's experiencing this.

Situation: Just upgraded to new Mac Pro (3.33Ghz Westmere/12Gb RAM/PT9-HD3).

Issue: I'm experiencing my plugin parameters as unresponsive. If I open a new plugin, if I try to move any parameter at all, it doesn't move with my mouse. If I import a plugin with already set parameters from another session, when I click on any one of it's parameters, it immediately zeroes and will not let me move it. I can assign automation as a workaround but otherwise they will not budge. Not on all plugs. The Digi plugs seem to be fine (EQ7, comp/limiter, etc). I've noticed it on Altiverb and all of Waves so far.

Has anyone else seen this behavior? I've never seen it before now.
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: PTHD9 Plugin controls become unresponsive.

Sounds like either you have incompatible plug-ins installed or you need to try to trash prefs.
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: PTHD9 Plugin controls become unresponsive.

Thank you for the response.

I tried trashing my prefs which didn't work. In regard to incompatible plugins, are the latest Waves plugins incompatible?
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Default Re: PTHD9 Plugin controls become unresponsive.

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Thank you for the response.

I tried trashing my prefs which didn't work. In regard to incompatible plugins, are the latest Waves plugins incompatible?
Hi,

Yes the latest waves are compatible.

Have you got any old or out of date plugins in the folder?

After removing any out of date or incompatible plugs from the folder you must trash the prefs to empty the plugin cache!!


Use this app to generate a list of installed plugins and copy paste the list here!!

http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/9xyx8w


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Old 01-04-2011, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: PTHD9 Plugin controls become unresponsive.

Thanks for the help, Crizdee. Here's the generated list (minus the Digi native plugs):


Tue Jan 4 14:44:58 PST 2011


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Plug-In Versions
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AVOX ASPIRE.dpm
3.0.2, Copyright © 2009, Antares Audio Technologies. All Rights Reserved.

AVOX THROAT.dpm
3.0.2, Copyright © 2009 Antares Audio Technologies. All Rights Reserved.

Altiverb 6.dpm
6.3.5 Copyright 2009 by Audio Ease. All rights reserved.

Band Delays (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

E-Channel (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

EQ45 (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

EQ65 (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

Eventide Reverb (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

Factory (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

FilterBank_HD.dpm
4.3x5, Copyright 1998-2009 McDowell Signal Processing, LLC

GRM BandPass RTAS.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM Comb RTAS.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM Contrast.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM Delay RTAS.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM Doppler RTAS.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM Equal.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM Freeze RTAS.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM FreqShift.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM FreqWarp.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM PitchAccum RTAS.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM Reson RTAS.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

GRM Shuffling RTAS.dpm
2.0, Copyright 2006 Groupe de recherches musicales de l'ina

H910 Harmonizer (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

H949 Harmonizer (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

Instant Flanger (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

Instant Phaser (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

LexChamber.dpm
Chamber RTAS::Release 1.1.3, © 2009 Harman International Industries, Inc.

LexConcertHall.dpm
Concert Hall RTAS::Release 1.1.3, © 2009 Harman International Industries, Inc.

LexHall.dpm
Hall RTAS::Release 1.1.3, © 2009 Harman International Industries, Inc.

LexPlate.dpm
Plate RTAS::Release 1.1.3, © 2009 Harman International Industries, Inc.

LexRandomHall.dpm
Random Hall RTAS::Release 1.1.3, © 2009 Harman International Industries, Inc.

LexRoom.dpm
Room RTAS::Release 1.1.3, © 2009 Harman International Industries, Inc.

LexVintagePlate.dpm
Vintage Plate RTAS::Release 1.1.3, © 2009 Harman International Industries, Inc.

Massey CT4.dpm
1.2.3 [2330] "Copyright (c)2006-2010 Massey Plugins Inc., All Rights Reserved."

Octavox (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

Omnipressor (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

Oxford Dynamics_LE.dpm
1.6.4, Copyright 2010 Sonnox Ltd.

Oxford Inflator_LE.dpm
1.5.5, Copyright 2010 Sonnox.

Oxford Limiter_LE.dpm
1.4.5, Copyright 2010 Sonnox Ltd.

Oxford Reverb_LE.dpm
1.4.4, Copyright 2010 Sonnox.

Oxford SuprEsser_LE.dpm
1.0.2, Copyright 2009 Sonnox Ltd

Oxford TransMod_LE.dpm
1.5.4, Copyright 2010 Sonnox.

PTA (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

Pitch 'n Time Pro.dpm
2.5.1.1, Copyright 1999-2010 Serato Audio Research

Quadravox (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

SonyOxfordEQ_LE.dpm
2.6.3, Copyright 2007 Sonnox.

SoundToys
v.4.1.0

Speakerphone.dpm
2.0.3 Copyright 2009 by Audio Ease. All rights reserved.

Synth_One_HD.dpm
4.3x5, Copyright 1998-2009 McDowell Signal Processing, LLC

Ultra-Channel (Anth 2.0).dpm
1.5.1.0 (Anthology II), Copyright 1991-2009 Eventide, Inc.

Vienna Ensemble Pro.dpm
v. 4.1.7553

WaveShell-DAE 7.1.dpm
7.1.1.5 Build 7562

iZRX2DeclickerPTHook.dpm
2.0.0, Copyright © 2001-2010 iZotope, Inc.

iZRX2DeclipperPTHook.dpm
2.0.0, Copyright © 2001-2010 iZotope, Inc.

iZRX2DecracklerPTHook.dpm
2.0.0, Copyright © 2001-2010 iZotope, Inc.

iZRX2DenoiserPTHook.dpm
2.0.0, Copyright © 2001-2010 iZotope, Inc.
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: PTHD9 Plugin controls become unresponsive.

I made some progress this morning. Just thought I'd update for posterity.

Turns out the problem is not a plug-in conflict but rather a screen resolution problem. I'm using a new Apple 27" display which goes up to 2560x1440. When working at that resolution, I get a GUI freeze on Waves and Altiverb (that I know of). If I change the resolution down to 1920x1080, the issue goes away.

It's a bummer because the higher resolution is wicked.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: PTHD9 Plugin controls become unresponsive.

I have a similar issue when using Waves plug-in's. The parameters all zero out when I try to edit waves plugs on the secondary monitor and not the primary monitor. It doesn't seem to matter what the resolution is set at. This has been happening for PT ver6,7,8,and9.
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Default Re: PTHD9 Plugin controls become unresponsive.

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I have a similar issue when using Waves plug-in's. The parameters all zero out when I try to edit waves plugs on the secondary monitor and not the primary monitor. It doesn't seem to matter what the resolution is set at. This has been happening for PT ver6,7,8,and9.
It's a known issue that is deep in Waves code. I experience it with my Wacom tablet mouse on my second monitor.
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: PTHD9 Plugin controls become unresponsive.

Thanks for the input fellas.

Yeah, further noodling this afternoon reveals that it's not resolution related, but definitely monitor related. I tried plugging the Apple 27" (absolutely stunning monitor, btw) directly into the machine and the problem went away, so now my sights are set on the miniDisplayPort extension cable. I've got a 24AWG ext on order for overnight so I'll swap that out and report back tomorrow.

Mrken37 - do you by chance have your second monitor connected via an extension cable?
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Both monitors are on extension cables. This only happens with Waves plugs and only on the secondary monitor. And as I said it's not a new issue with PT9.
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