Mix in 44.1 but monitor at 192k?

[atticmike]

Hi there,

Is it possible to run a session in 44.1 but have the output upsampled for Monitoring?

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[JFreak]

Not from PT. You can run monitor output via SRC box but would not gain anything by doing so


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[JCBigler]

Sure, output an analog signal, go through another analog to digital converter and either to your speakers or monitoring system digitally or convert back to analog and into your speakers or monitoring system.

But why? What would the point be? Do you think you can hear a difference at 192Khz?

[albee1952]

Originally Posted by JCBigler

Sure, output an analog signal, go through another analog to digital converter and either to your speakers or monitoring system digitally or convert back to analog and into your speakers or monitoring system.

But why? What would the point be? Do you think you can hear a difference at 192Khz?

Or more importantly, will it sound better after the upsampling?(not likely) Seems a bit like converting an mp3 to a wave file........

[atticmike]

Originally Posted by albee1952

Or more importantly, will it sound better after the upsampling?(not likely) Seems a bit like converting an mp3 to a wave file........

It actually does sound better when I do this in windows where I can play back files from the player foobar with setting a sample rate of my choosing in the OS output setting of my converter and it does sound better and less mushy. I assume it let's your converter be more precise?

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[atticmike]

Originally Posted by JCBigler

Sure, output an analog signal, go through another analog to digital converter and either to your speakers or monitoring system digitally or convert back to analog and into your speakers or monitoring system.



But why? What would the point be? Do you think you can hear a difference at 192Khz?

Yes when setting my OS' output to 192k, the playback sounds less mushy and more precise and clear.

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[Bob Olhsson]

All current converters I'm aware of up-sample everything so it's pretty pointless.

[atticmike]

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson

All current converters I'm aware of up-sample everything so it's pretty pointless.

Not all of them unless you buy merging or Cranesong.

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[Teej]

My two cents, take it or leave it: the point of monitoring is in the word... you're monitoring what the signal is. If you're mixing in one sample rate but your monitor signal chain upsamples to another, you'll be hearing something other than your actual output. It might sound better to you, but unless you use the exact same signal chain on your mix output when you bounce, you're mixing one thing while hearing another.

Even then, since most delivery formats are 44/48 or 96 etc, you'd have to resample the mix to 192 so it matches what you are hearing and then back down for deliverables...then you've gone even further from the mix.

Monitor at whatever sample rate the project is at and hear what you're actually working on. My Mytek DAC has switchable upsampling...it sounds real "nice", but I leave it off. I want to hear what's coming out of Pro Tools, not some dream to make me feel good about myself.

Maybe I'm not understanding something about your use case but this is what came to mind.

[EGS]

Originally Posted by Teej

My two cents, take it or leave it: the point of monitoring is in the word... you're monitoring what the signal is. If you're mixing in one sample rate but your monitor signal chain upsamples to another, you'll be hearing something other than your actual output. It might sound better to you, but unless you use the exact same signal chain on your mix output when you bounce, you're mixing one thing while hearing another.

Even then, since most delivery formats are 44/48 or 96 etc, you'd have to resample the mix to 192 so it matches what you are hearing and then back down for deliverables...then you've gone even further from the mix.

Monitor at whatever sample rate the project is at and hear what you're actually working on. My Mytek DAC has switchable upsampling...it sounds real "nice", but I leave it off. I want to hear what's coming out of Pro Tools, not some dream to make me feel good about myself.

Maybe I'm not understanding something about your use case but this is what came to mind.

+1. For monitoring, I prefer a "worst case" scenario. I take an analog output from my audio interface to my monitor controller. I feel this gets me closer to the most probable end-user playback setup.