Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Pro Tools Software > macOS
Register FAQ Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-21-2013, 10:00 AM
bryced87 bryced87 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 410
Default Subgroups for a piano or strings?

I got confused recently because I saw an article that shows subgroups for a piano and string track when there is only one piano and string recording. What's the point of this? I understand having a drumsub group since you have more than one drum element but why a subgroup for a piano when there is only one piano the whole song? Can't you just apply all your plugins to the piano track and not need the subgroup? The article explains that you put compression on the subgroup of the piano but put EQ and effects on the main piano track. I don't see any reason for this unless I'm missing something.
__________________
Macbook Pro

Mac OS 10.10.3
Mbox 2,
Pro Tools 11
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-21-2013, 11:12 AM
cwsand's Avatar
cwsand cwsand is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 3,912
Default Re: Subgroups for a piano or strings?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryced87 View Post
I got confused recently because I saw an article that shows subgroups for a piano and string track when there is only one piano and string recording. What's the point of this? I understand having a drumsub group since you have more than one drum element but why a subgroup for a piano when there is only one piano the whole song? Can't you just apply all your plugins to the piano track and not need the subgroup? The article explains that you put compression on the subgroup of the piano but put EQ and effects on the main piano track. I don't see any reason for this unless I'm missing something.
It's not always technically necessary, it's just a matter of workflow and what you're used to. Plus, often if different reverbs are added for the piano and strings for each submix, then any processing you add to aux track will process both the original track and reverb. I find myself making subgroups for drums and guitars, and even though the bass may not technically need one, I make one anyway for consistency.
__________________
Help Us Help You
______________________________________
Chris

Pro Tools 2024.3
Focusrite LS56
Focusrite Pro40 (2)
TC Electronic Studio Konnekt 48
Avid Artist Mix/Control
Slate Digital VRS8
Analogue Tonebuss 24 Channel
UAD-2 OCTO Core Accelerator
UAD Volt 2
macOS 10.15.7
32 GB DDR4 RAM
4.01GHz Quad-Core Intel Core I7
NVIDIA GeForce GT 740 2 GB
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-22-2013, 06:43 AM
mickelini's Avatar
mickelini mickelini is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 45
Default Re: Subgroups for a piano or strings?

Possibly about parallel processing. Some engineers mix a compressed track with an uncompressed one. Different quality than a single compressed track.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LA Scoring Strings vs Hollywood Strings Stig Eliassen Virtual Instruments 40 10-02-2011 02:13 PM
looking for a Piano-Bar for a grand piano teacherman General Discussion 2 01-09-2007 11:36 AM
looking for a Piano-Bar for a grand piano teacherman General Discussion 0 01-09-2007 06:48 AM
Aux Sends from Subgroups Duardo VENUE Live Sound Systems 4 01-29-2006 08:29 AM
Keyboard with best strings? Piano? nemisis63 General Discussion 1 04-02-2003 11:30 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:03 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com