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Strike won't connect to tempo map
Hi forum
I'm trying to 'recreate' a song by the Eagles (Peaceful easy feeling). After tempo mapping the click track follows all tempo changes perfectly. But when I add Strike on a track the drumnotes slowly drift away from the right tempo. It starts correctly but after a few bars Strike doesn't react to any tempo changes. Can you help me? PT 10.8.3, Imac 2014, Digi 002.
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PT 10.3.7 iMac late 2013 OS X 10.8.5 Digi 002 console Novation 25 sl mk 2 controller Focusrite Platinum Voicemaster pro AKG 451 C matched pair AKG 414 C XLS matched pair Sennheiser 406 T matched pair Mackie HR824 mk2 lots of fine guitars homestudio, retired guitar teacher, enjoying life and recording |
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Re: Strike won't connect to tempo map
Well, silence speaks louder than words. So I started searching for a solution, which took several hours.
And I may have found it in Strike itself. It has a 'Groove' button and there is a possibility to save a custom groove, created with Beat Detective. I tried it a few times and it is still not correct, but I noticed some reaction from Strike. That means I'm on the right track, I guess. When I get it 100% right I'll post the procedure, in case someone else is having the same problem.
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PT 10.3.7 iMac late 2013 OS X 10.8.5 Digi 002 console Novation 25 sl mk 2 controller Focusrite Platinum Voicemaster pro AKG 451 C matched pair AKG 414 C XLS matched pair Sennheiser 406 T matched pair Mackie HR824 mk2 lots of fine guitars homestudio, retired guitar teacher, enjoying life and recording |
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Re: Strike won't connect to tempo map
What version of Strike do you have installed? (Assuming you meant Pro Tools 10.3.8.)
Can you post a screenshot of your Edit window showing your Tempo Ruler and the Instrument Track (set to 'notes') that contains Strike?
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Re: Strike won't connect to tempo map
Thanks for your reply. It is indeed PT 10.3.8.
My Avid account shows that I'm using Strike version 1.5. Which is rather old, I just noticed. Untill this Eagles project I only recorded acoustic instruments and vocals, so I never needed a drum machine before. Would you recommend version 2.0.4? I will try to make a screenshot today and post it tonight (my studio is in another city).
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PT 10.3.7 iMac late 2013 OS X 10.8.5 Digi 002 console Novation 25 sl mk 2 controller Focusrite Platinum Voicemaster pro AKG 451 C matched pair AKG 414 C XLS matched pair Sennheiser 406 T matched pair Mackie HR824 mk2 lots of fine guitars homestudio, retired guitar teacher, enjoying life and recording |
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Re: Strike won't connect to tempo map
Looks like you are triggering individual hits (as opposed to using the built-in patterns), so what happens if you swap in another 'drum' plug-in?
Please try Boom or a drum kit in XPand and reply back. I also started a support case to get your session file if you are able to provide that.
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Re: Strike won't connect to tempo map
Boom and ExPand: will do today.
So far I understand that a Strike pattern ('verse A' for example) is not flexible. Only one tempo for the entire pattern. That explains Strike's strange reactions to my custom BeatDetective groove. (Just thinking:) maybe opening separate Strike tracks for each pattern (verse, fill in and chorus) each with it's own tempo, is the solution.
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PT 10.3.7 iMac late 2013 OS X 10.8.5 Digi 002 console Novation 25 sl mk 2 controller Focusrite Platinum Voicemaster pro AKG 451 C matched pair AKG 414 C XLS matched pair Sennheiser 406 T matched pair Mackie HR824 mk2 lots of fine guitars homestudio, retired guitar teacher, enjoying life and recording |
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Re: Strike won't connect to tempo map
Jeffro:
Boom and the XPand drums follow my custom tempo map perfectly. This means my problem is solved. This weekend I will experiment with Strike further, because I do like it's sounds and options. If what I have in mind works I will post the procedure here. Thank you very much for your help.
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PT 10.3.7 iMac late 2013 OS X 10.8.5 Digi 002 console Novation 25 sl mk 2 controller Focusrite Platinum Voicemaster pro AKG 451 C matched pair AKG 414 C XLS matched pair Sennheiser 406 T matched pair Mackie HR824 mk2 lots of fine guitars homestudio, retired guitar teacher, enjoying life and recording |
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Re: Strike won't connect to tempo map
As promissed, I'll let you know how Strike reacted to my plans.
Actually it's pretty simple, but I hope it helps newbees like me (I never worked with midi and drummachines before). And maybe an expert can chime in with a better idea. First I entered a time marker every fourth bar. Afterwards I deleted most markers and kept only the first ones of each part (intro-verse-chorus). That was usually enough. Then added Strike, selected 'notes' and quantized each individual part (intro-verse-chorus). Added: once quantized you can fine tune the tempo with the tempomarkers. Added: when all that is done, Strike allows you to create separate audio files (for kick, snare, hh, toms etc). As if you just recorded a very good live drummer and we all know: good drummers are hard to find and cost a lot per hour. And that works great. No problems whatsoever with Strike's fixed patterns. Each note behaves individual and it's very simple to add fill ins. I learned a lot again, thanks to this forum! Best regards
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PT 10.3.7 iMac late 2013 OS X 10.8.5 Digi 002 console Novation 25 sl mk 2 controller Focusrite Platinum Voicemaster pro AKG 451 C matched pair AKG 414 C XLS matched pair Sennheiser 406 T matched pair Mackie HR824 mk2 lots of fine guitars homestudio, retired guitar teacher, enjoying life and recording Last edited by lonestarparis; 06-18-2015 at 10:10 AM. |
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