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Old 06-02-2020, 02:00 PM
Jazzbass56 Jazzbass56 is offline
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Default -9173 errors

I'm getting 9173 errors in sessions with very little plugins, just 10 Ch of drums,3 ch bass, 4 channels of synth stems, I have a Mac pro 128gb ram,12core trashcan
NO reverbs yet it still stops with -9173, and this is ProTools 2020.5 Ultimate.
I could go into more detail, but what's the point, is anyone else experiencing this behavior? I've started using LXP 10.5 and I can run very complex sessions with no issues, but I need to finish this up in Pro Tools, I've done all the usual, trash preferences, etc, but it still comes to a stop.I'm using. SSD drives that are a raid system with 8TB of NVME drives, they are FAST so it is not that.
Also using 1024 buffer, with 2 Apollo X8's
Intel Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5 GHz Processor
ASUS X99-PRO/USB 3.1 Motherboard,64 GB crucial DDR4 ram
Thunderbolt EX 2
Windows 10 Pro
2013 MacBook Pro Retina i7 Quad-core, 16gb ram.
Mac OSX 10.11.6
Mac Pro (Late 2013)
2.7 GHz 12-Core Intel Xeon E5
Memory 128 GB 1866 MHZ DDR3
Graphics AMD FirePro D700 6144 MB

PT Ultimate 2019.12 on Mac
PT Ultimate 2019.12 on Windows
Logic Pro X 10.4.6
Nuendo 10.2
(2) Apollo X8 Thunderbolt
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Old 06-02-2020, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: -9173 errors

Everyone has experienced this on all models of powerful mac computers. So you need to go into detail your exact specs. Everything. All hardware. Software. Plug-ins. Drivers. Etc...

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Old 06-02-2020, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: -9173 errors

Don't have a large experience with pro tools as for configuration point of view (since 12.8) but it's becoming more and more stable. I'm still running a Mac mini late 2012 i5 with just 16g of ram with great stability (I even did basic mixing while tracking at 64 buffer size).

But I realised that whenever I had a 9173 error was due to maybe another app running in the background that in a determined moment stresses a little bit the MacOs (usually at very low buffer size), or with some plugins.

When it has to do with plugins, the buffer size matters less. So you can have these errors even if you run it at 1024. Maybe it has to do with aax implementation....don't know and I'm not an expert in computer programming.

But I can take decisions. I had to decide what's more important for me, running pro tools with great stability or having that ..... (insert whatever name of plugin here). For me was running pro tools with out any error and this determined me to be very judicious about plugins. So I have 2 rules applied for this:
1) Does that plugin trashes pro tools stability? If it does than it's out of my system without even thinking twice, even if it's the best in its class.
2) Does that plugin really has something valuable adding to me that no other plugin in my list does? If not...off it goes.

So basically I run stock pro tools plugins with some adds like the bx Focusrite plugin and some freebies.

I think mixing is not about having tones of plugins but about you. Running a clean list of plugins and a very stable pro tools system really helps my workflow and lets me think about my work and not about other stuff.

As always, it's my opinion and experience.
Mac Mini late 2012 i5 | Mac OS Catalina 10.15 | Motu 16A | Motu 828ES | Pro Tools 2020.5 Native
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: -9173 errors

I haven't seen a single error message since updating to 2020.05. Unfortunately, everything EuCon related is screwed up now.
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