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I have two very cheap ProTools rigs -- one at my home office for mixing and one at my band's rehearsal space for recording. They are identical windows 7 machines I built myself from components. They have ProTools 9.06 (I hope to upgrade soon). Things are mostly good.
My problem: sometimes ProTools writes project files to a third internal hard drive intended to be used ONLY as a backup. I have ProTools installed on the system (C) drive. I record everything to the E drive (labeled "DATA") and the third drive is F, labeled "WIN_BACKUP". The problem is inconsistent. A lot of the time, things work great. However, if I consolidate all the regions on one track into a single file, this newly consolidate file often ends up on that other hard drive. I believe the problem also happens if I use AudioSuite to process a file with an effect and also when ProTools generates fade files and stuff. I first noticed this problem when I wanted to copy a project I'd been working on at home to a USB pen drive to take back to the space to record some more overdubs. When I open the PT project down at the rehearsal space, it would complain about missing files. How do I get ProTools to ONLY write project files to the project directory? Seems that's how things should work. Alternatively, if this cannot be accomplished, how do I tell ProTools to just ignore my WIN_BACKUP drive entirely? Any help would be much appreciated. Please note that I have very little experience with hardware setups or routing. I'm just a mix-window and edit-window kind of guy. |
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2 things come to mind; 1-lock out the backup drive be setting it to be a Transfer drive. 2-pay attention when you create a new session so you save it where you want it and not where PT "THINKS" it should go.
BTW, if you are opening a template session, instead of creating FROM a template, that would be a problem as PT will save the audio in the original session's Audio Files folder. The solution here is to create FROM a template and never actually opening the template(except to modify it) ![]()
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And check your disk allocation so you can see where the files are actually being saved.
As albee said, use a template and create a session from it and always have "Choose Location" checked in Dashboard/Quick Start.
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Thanks for your response!
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OK this sounds like a reasonable action. I did create a template once upon a time as an experiment, but will have to look into it again. |
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Open the "Workspace" in Pro Tools - it's under the windows menu at the top of the screen (although Pro Tools has changed the menu headings, and moved functions around many times over the years, so I can't remember of the top of my head if they were different in PT9).
Over on the left hand side of the Workspace you will see your Hard Drives listed, and after that, a column that will have the letter "R" in it, telling you that Pro Tools considers the drive a "Record" drive. Click on the "R", and a menu will appear, so change your back-up drive to "T" meaning it becomes a "Transfer" drive (which allows you to move/transfer files around within PT, but not record to that drive). You can check the disk allocation of the session by going to the Setup menu at the top of the screen, and selecting "Disk Allocation". You will be presented with a list of every audio track in the session, followed by a column detailing the file path for any recordings made to that track. You can change the file path by clicking on the existing one, and redirecting the location. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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When backing up a session manually (as I do) I always use "Save Copy In" although it might have been called something slightly different in 7; but when you go to save you should see three choices that are essentially:
1)Save 2)Save As, which essentially just renames the current session while changing nothing re:files, allocation, etc. 3)Save Copy As/In (or something akin to that). When you use this third option, and save to a drive that is not your current working drive, all audio files are allocated to that backup drive, including any rogue files that are mis-allocated in your current session. Then occasionally, after creating backups in this way, I save them all back to the original drive, using the same "Save copy as/in" out of an abundance of caution, but to a brand new project folder. Then after doing that I'll nuke the original project folder. I don't know if this is the way other guys do it, but this seems to keep my sessions free from mis-allocation, and helps me sleep at night.
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Thank you for your response!
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* 'R' – Record – will set up Pro Tools to be able to record (write) data to the device. * 'P' – Playback – will set up Pro Tools to only be able to play (read) data from the device. * 'T' – Transfer – will set up Pro Tools to not be able to read or write to the drive. This is set by default on Network drives, USB drives, and any other attached media which isn’t fast enough for Pro Tools to work on. Quote:
One's settings in the 'Workspace' menu item appear to be an application-level setting and are preserved after closing one project and opening another. It appreciate your help. It is my hope that this will solve my problem once and for all. |
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I believe the option to store audio files from the same session onto different audio drives stems from the "round robin" disk allocation method available. In the event there are a ton of audio tracks in a session, writing and reading the files from a single disk may overwhelm the disk. Using this method, Track 1 will be written to the D drive, Track 2 to the E drive, Track 3 to the D drive, etc. I have fooled around with this just for fun, using my internal D drive and an external firewire drive, trying to see if I could overwhelm the system. With my even older version of Pro Tools than yours, I am limited to 48 stereo tracks (with the Music Production Toolkit), and I could not overwhelm the system using the round robin disk allocation.
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A "PROJECT" is in the cloud. A "SESSION" is saved locally(on your recording drive). Hope that helps.
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