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Old 09-04-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Click track won\'t play consistently

Hello Protoolers,

A few days ago I upgraded from my trusty PT 6.7 to PT 7.3.1cs4, I was fixing a drum session and notice inconsistenses in the rythm so I insert a loop and duplicate it a few bars to check if the drummer was bad or the click was not ok... the click was NOT CONSISTENT.

Then made a new session, juse a click track (instrument track) and an audio track, play it, and the click was not consistent.

I dont know if this is been covered, if so, please let me know where to find the solution.

Any help would be very appreciated.


My set up:
Mac G4 1.2 ghz
2 Gbytes RAM
1 drive for OS and PT and 1 drive for Audio files
OS X 10.4.9
PT HD 7.3.1 cs4
3 Process cards

The system had at least 2 years working 24/7 with OS X 10.3 and PT 6.7 without any problem!

Please Help!
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:30 PM
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I've seen this too...it's always a little late compared to the grid, but sometimes it's randomly ALL over the place, nowhere near the grid. I usually end up slicing up a bar of click, placing it right on the grid, and copying it across. It's a pain in the butt, but only way it seems to make it do what a click should do...
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:11 AM
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Have you absolutely, positively verified that all installed plug-ins are Pro Tools 7 compatible? I've seen this caused by having outdated or unauthorized plug-ins installed. You can test by removing all plug-ins except for click and stereo mixer, trashing prefs, restarting and testing again.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:21 AM
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Positive. It was happening to me once on a brand new rig, with nothing else installed other than the Digi plugs that went in when installing protools off a CD.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:19 AM
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Positive. It was happening to me once on a brand new rig, with nothing else installed other than the Digi plugs that went in when installing protools off a CD.
Can you give me a complete system spec, including computer model, OS version, Pro Tools version and any attached peripherals?
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Old 09-08-2007, 08:03 PM
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It was a while ago....I think I was on a Dual 1.0 mirror drive door G4 at the time. Probably PT 7.3.1, but couldn't say for sure...I've upgraded my rig a few times over the last year, and unfortunately don't recall which one it was on...
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:45 AM
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Thank you Digi Support,

All plug-ins are 7.x compliant. I downloaded ALL of them to install them on the new system, I paid for the upgrades of everything.
No "Demo" plugins are installed, not even in the ilok, I have a separate ilok for demos, since there is no way to get rid of those licences.

Here is the list of the Hardware and Software, it is important to remark that it is the SAME system that I was using for almost 2 years with PT 6.7 and ran without any problems at all.

The only hardware that was not there when I did the new istallation was the Hard Drive where I installed the OS and PT, because I save the "old" one with the working PT 6.7 in case something wrong happend, (may be I am going back to 6.7), I got a new Hard Disk to make the new installation.

Power Mac G4 MDD
Procesor speed 1.25 Ghz
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed 167 Mhz
This model it is listed in the compato docs.

1 HD core plus 2 Process Cards (non Accel)

1 250 GB IDE/ATA Seagate Barracuda Hard Disk for OS X and Programs
1 250 GB IDE/ATA Western Digital Caviar for Audio

OS X 10.4.9 updated with "Combo" update.

Protools 7.3.1cs4 TDM

ProControl Main Unit with 3 Fader Packs (I notice that the firmware of all this units was updated whe first launching PT 7.3)

192 I/O with legacy Adat Bridge 24



It is important to tell you that I erase both drives (OS and Audio) completly and then did all the instalation from zero. Both drives where formated OS X Extended Journaled

I followed the instructions on the manual for the instalation, and I followed the instructions at the general troubleshooting post without any improvements.

I moved all the plugins from the Plugins folder and left only the mixer and the click plugin and there still were inconsitencies.

There is also another problem... I hear audio AFTER I STOP the playback!

I am an experienced PT user, I run the studio since Session 8 in the early 90's so I think I know what I am doing.

Please Help!!! I need my studio to work as soon as possible.

Thank you.
Camilo Orozco

Here is the plugin list (taken from the "Protools Version List") in case it is relevant, but I dont think it is plug related because I moved everything from the plugins folder and left click and mixer plugs and did not work, anyways here it is:

Fri Sep 14 11:08:39 CDT 2007




Pro Tools Version
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Pro Tools HD.app
7.3.1cs4, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.





Plug-In Versions
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SonyOxfordEQ.dpm
2.52x0, Copyright 1991-2005 Sony, Oxford.

SonyOxfordInflator.dpm
1.4x0, Copyright 1991-2005 Sony, Oxford.

Access Music Indigo.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Amp Farm.dpm
3.10, Copyright 2006 Line 6

Analog_Channel_HD.dpm
3.1x8, Copyright 1998-2006 McDowell Signal Processing, LLC

Aphex Aural Exciter.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Aphex BigBottom Pro.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Auto-Tune_TDM.dpm
5.0.8, Copyright © 2007 Antares Audio Technologies

BF Essential Clip Remover.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

BF Essential Corr.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

BF Essential Meter.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

BF Essential Noise.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

BF Essential Tuner.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Bruno.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Chorus.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Click.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Cosmonaut Voice.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

D-Verb.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

DigiReWire.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Dither.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Drawmer Dynamics.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Drumagog.dpm
1.0x0, Copyright 2006 FXpansion Audio UK Ltd..

DrumagogFL.dpm
1.0x0, Copyright 2006 FXpansion Audio UK Ltd..

Dynamics III.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

EQ III.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Echo Farm.dpm
2.30, Copyright 2006 Line 6

FilterBank_HD.dpm
4.1x8, Copyright 1998-2006 McDowell Signal Processing, LLC

Flanger.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Focusrite d2.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Focusrite d3.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Funk Logic Masterer.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Invert-Duplicate.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

LoFi.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

MC2000_HD.dpm
3.1x8, Copyright 1998-2006 McDowell Signal Processing, LLC

MDW_EQ2_3B.dpm
2.0.2r44, Copyright 2007 Massenburg Design Works.

MDW_EQ2_5B.dpm
2.0.2r44, Copyright 2007 Massenburg Design Works.

Melodyne plugin.dpm
Melodyne plugin 1.0.2.0 Copyright 1999-2006 Celemony Software GmbH

Mod Delay II.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Multi-Tap Delay.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Normalize-Gain.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Phoenix.dpm
2.4.3x22, Copyright 2002-2006 Crane Song Ltd.

Ping-Pong Delay.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Pitch.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Pultec EQH-2.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Pultec EQP-1A.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Pultec MEQ-5.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

RectiFi.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Reso.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Reverb One.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Reverse-DC Removal.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

SciFi.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Signal Generator.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

SignalTools.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

SoundReplacer.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

SoundToys

Stereo Mixer.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Synchronic.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

TL Space.dpm
7.4, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Time Comp-Exp-Pitch Shift.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Time Shift.dpm
7.3, Copyright © 2005 by Digidesign, a division of Avid. All rights reserved.

TimeAdjuster.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

Trim.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

VariFi.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.

VocALignASX.dpm
2.9.6, Copyright 1995-2007 SynchroArts Ltd.

VocALignPT.pdf

WaveShell-DAE 5.0.5
5.0.5, © 1991-2005, Waves Audio Ltd. All Rights Reserved.

WaveShell-DAE 5.4.5
5.4.5, © 1991-2005, Waves Audio Ltd. All Rights Reserved.

bombfactory BF76.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.








Plug-Ins Unused Versions
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Cosmonaut Voice
4.2, Copyright 1999-2004 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.


Dynamics II.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.


EQ II.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.


Stereo Dithered Mixer.dpm
7.3.1cs3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.


Surround Dithered Mixer.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.


Surround Mixer.dpm
7.3, Copyright 1991-2006 Digidesign, A Division of Avid Technology, Inc.






Toolkits and Digitranslator Versions
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Music Production Toolkit is not installed



DV Toolkit 2 is not installed



Digitranslator 2 is not installed



Digitranslator 1 is not installed

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Old 09-17-2007, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: Click track won\'t play consistently

Now I have also problems with drawing the waveforms

When start recording the waveform draws as usual but a few seconds later... no more drawing!!, when I stop recording, PT redraws those tracks
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