MTRX Studio basic questions

[JamesG602]

Hey guys,

Been thinking of getting a MTRX studio and have some basic questions that I wanted some clarity on.

1. Currently running an Avid HD 16x16, 8x8x8, and an omni, don't really need all the IO. Might shuffle down to the MTRX studio and the 8x8x8. Question - Are the converters on the MTRX studio a noticeable upgrade from the Avid HD stuff?

2. I know the MTRX requires you to put in the delay comp values in Protools for running inserts, but will I run into trouble simply running analog outs from both the MTRX studio and an Avid HD I/O unit at the same time into my Burl Summing B32? Seems to me each unit has different latencies for the DA.

3. The DAD software kind of intimidates me haha... Once its set, does it need to be opened each time before running protools? I went to an HDX system from an apogee and UA setup to get away from the second layer of software. I don't mind setting it for my basic needs and forgetting it until something needs to change, but having to interact with each time might be a bummer.

Thanks!

[creativecontrol]

Greetings,

Obviously my opinions are my own, so please either ask others their opinions on the quality of the converters, or better, borrow one and record with it.

:)

The converters are excellent and absolutely an upgrade from the HD series devices.

If you are planning on feeding into a summing mixer -> which then feeds a monitor section you literally will almost never need to launch DADman once you've established all of your patches which are then sent to the hardware crosspoint matrix.

If needing a monitor section, whether Stereo or Atmos, DADman will need to be always running.

I would recommend using the 16 DA's on the MTRX Studio to feed your summing amp (single DigiLink cable to HDX Card 1 Port 1: 32 channels) and then keep one of your HD IO's if you do want to do hardware inserts (single DigiLink cable to HDX Card 1 Port 2). This should give you the most flexibility and best fidelity.


Jeff

[JamesG602]

Thanks for the info.

So to utilize the monitor outs on the MTRX Studio DADman software will need to be launched correct?

[creativecontrol]

You only need to have DADman running actively if you are taking advantage of ProMon - which is a powerful custom monitoring environment which can accommodate anything from Stereo to 9.1.6 Dolby Atmos.

Certainly, if you simply want to address any of the outputs on the MTRX Studio, be they DB25, TRS monitor, or Cue1 or Cue2 you can do so directly from Pro Tools (after patching as mentioned) and not require DADman be open.

Let me know if you will be monitoring with DADman or with some other device downstream of your summing mixer.


best,


Jeff

[JamesG602]

My current monitoring setup is digital out from the omni into a DBOX + controlling two sets of stereo monitors. I have my 16x16 feeding my summing mixer that is then piped back into a set of inputs into protools to monitor when armed. I don't always sum with the Burl.

[uptheoctave]

Originally Posted by JamesG602

My current monitoring setup is digital out from the omni into a DBOX + controlling two sets of stereo monitors. I have my 16x16 feeding my summing mixer that is then piped back into a set of inputs into protools to monitor when armed. I don't always sum with the Burl.

Personally I would ditch the HD interface and get something that does Dante and control everything from DADman.
If you use the HD interface then it cannot be easily integrated into Pro Mon.

It will take you a few days to get to grips with Dadman and Promon, if you can use Pro Tools then you can use this.
It is less complicated.

I am always going into Dadman to change routing, sending things directly to the monitors or to Pro Tools.

You may find you do not need the DBox for monitor control.
Dadman can do pretty much anything you want, and if you need a hardware controller for you can use an iPad or some other tablet, also DAD make a MOM.

I use both.

[AINSLIE]

Dadman is fantastic! Takes a bit to get your head around it, but once you do you wont look back .. its really powerful. And the support here is excellent. Solved every question I've had within a few hours. Lose the OMNI! Maybe hang onto the HD interface until you're confident .. once you understand the possibilities I suspect you'll be happy to lose it. I totally get the intimidation! But if you've ever gotten you're head around a patchbay, Dadman will make sense. my2c

[Padje]

Hi there

Ax32 here with an additional 16x16 for inserts and inputs from money preamps. (Coming from 2 HD io). Love the worry free insert stuff.

Ax32 also used for link to dlive dm0 through Dante. Monitoring through me-1 and when in need of more than 8 channels, using the dlive preamps.

For now using an avocet as monitor controller, but planning to move to dad when confident enough and mom is available again.

My ax32 has the Brooklyn Dante card as wel as an analogue output card. Happy with this setup, although I had some Dante issues in the beginning. thinking of ditching the 16x16 in the long run. Hopes this helps.

[gives]

Originally Posted by uptheoctave

Personally I would ditch the HD interface and get something that does Dante and control everything from DADman.
If you use the HD interface then it cannot be easily integrated into Pro Mon.

It will take you a few days to get to grips with Dadman and Promon, if you can use Pro Tools then you can use this.
It is less complicated.

I am always going into Dadman to change routing, sending things directly to the monitors or to Pro Tools.

You may find you do not need the DBox for monitor control.
Dadman can do pretty much anything you want, and if you need a hardware controller for you can use an iPad or some other tablet, also DAD make a MOM.

I use both.

YUP I listened to Jeff Komar, who steered me in the right directions and never looked back. My system has created a much better revenue stream for me as well with a very functional room with a much better and quick setup.
G

[MPizzaMusic]

As somebody who came from an HD I/O on HDX and now using HD Native w/ MTRX Studio - you're going to love it. Best upgrade I've ever made on a converter/monitoring system. I had a Dangerous Monitor ST and ditched that as well.

DADman is amazing. Agreed intimidating at first, but after about a day of research I was able to full customize it to my setup (which now includes both stereo and Atmos, two completely different speaker systems) along with an additional converter (old Apogee DA16) for analog summing that I connect with ADAT. The routing is fantastic. Little things like not having to use an analog set of outputs for a rough mix is great. I also have it set so that when I switch to my stereo speakers (ATC) from my Atmos (Kali), the dual subwoofers automatically reconfigure themselves to become stereo with the ATC's, so one for each. Crossovers and EQ all change as well. Not that you would do this, but just giving an example of the power of this system. The room tuning functionality is great.

It will be an upgrade that once you configure will be worth every penny. I too am waiting for a DADmom controller, who knows how long that is going to take. But worth the wait and easy to control with my Artist Mix for now.