New to Pro Tools, drum buss question

[Big Cloud]

Hello, I'm a long time Cubase user who has had to migrate over to Pro Tools 2018 for a project.

In Cubase to set up my drum group I just send my individual drums over to a single Stereo Drum buss track (In Cubase they call it a 'Group Track')

Once done, I can solo any individual drum or the whole group with just one press of the solo button. It'll also include any active inserts or sends on the drum buss.

(See Pic 'Cubase Drums')

In Pro Tools, it seems to solo an individual drum in a buss, I have to solo the drum buss track, the individual drum you want and then also the effects buss. So, three solo button presses, rather than one.
(See Pic 'Pro Tools Drums')

If this is the case, then that's fine, I'll just get used to it, I just wanted to make sure I'm not doing everything in a long winded way! Am I missing anything?

Many thanks,

Steve

[Stig Eliassen]

Ctrl+click the drum buss to solo-safe it. That way, it'll always pass audio.

[Big Cloud]

Originally Posted by Stig Eliassen

Ctrl+click the drum buss to solo-safe it. That way, it'll always pass audio.

Excellent! So if I solo safe all my busses and effects, it'll work just like Cubase.
Thank you very much :)

[Stig Eliassen]

My pleasure. Enjoy.

[Ru_C]

Originally Posted by Big Cloud

Excellent! So if I solo safe all my busses and effects, it'll work just like Cubase.
Thank you very much :)

Hi Big Cloud, yes as mentioned by the other poster, 'solo-safe' is the way to go with pro Tools.

I migrated from Cubase to Using Pro Tools full time in about 2005, & I still find this process annoying compared to Cubase & Logic, where soloing a track *automatically* solos any busses the tracks use (& vice versa).

I've given up hoping AVID will change the default behaviour of this, & have just learned to live with it, as I find the other advantages of PT outweigh this aggravation

[Big Cloud]

Originally Posted by Ru_C

Hi Big Cloud, yes as mentioned by the other poster, 'solo-safe' is the way to go with pro Tools.

I migrated from Cubase to Using Pro Tools full time in about 2005, & I still find this process annoying compared to Cubase & Logic, where soloing a track *automatically* solos any busses the tracks use (& vice versa).

I've given up hoping AVID will change the default behaviour of this, & have just learned to live with it, as I find the other advantages of PT outweigh this aggravation

Hi Ru,

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I'm in a similar situation. I'm starting work at a place that uses Pro Tools exclusively , so I need to get up to speed, but Cubase is my first love :)
A lot of things about Pro Tools I'm finding are great, I'm really enjoying using it, but obviously still finding a few little niggles here and there.

A big surprise I've found is that Pro Tools seemingly has no capacity for Midi drum maps. (Unless I'm missing it?) So programming a virtual drum kit for example is way easier in Cubase, but for Audio stuff, Pro Tools seems very nice. (Now I've discovered solo - safe anyway!)

[Ru_C]

Originally Posted by Big Cloud

Hi Ru,

A big surprise I've found is that Pro Tools seemingly has no capacity for Midi drum maps. (Unless I'm missing it?) So programming a virtual drum kit for example is way easier in Cubase, but for Audio stuff, Pro Tools seems very nice. (Now I've discovered solo - safe anyway!)

..yes thats another annoyance ! No Idea why this hasn't been added either...i know its a cliche, but I think both bits of software still betray their roots...Cubase was a midi/composing platform that added Audio...& pro Tools was an Audio platform that added midi/Virutal-instruments....neither have 100% caught up with all the features of the other..

[Drew Mazurek]

FYI, solo safe'ing is the way all consoles have worked for decades.

[Ru_C]

Originally Posted by Drew Mazurek

FYI, solo safe'ing is the way all consoles have worked for decades.

aggghh...this was the answer that I got 10 years ago too ! Pro Tools is *software* & not hardware, thus should be able to do simple things that old 60's analog stuff can't...the whole 'Solo safe' paradigm is a classic example of something that can easily be improved upon by software, as every single other DAW did.

[Drew Mazurek]

Originally Posted by Ru_C

aggghh...this was the answer that I got 10 years ago too ! Pro Tools is *software* & not hardware, thus should be able to do simple things that old 60's analog stuff can't...the whole 'Solo safe' paradigm is a classic example of something that can easily be improved upon by software, as every single other DAW did.

I use AFL/PFL when SIP isn't appropriate. Also in consoles for decades.

I agree it would cool for PT to be "smart" and auto choose SIP or AFL based on track type. That's a worthy feature request IMO and it's been made.