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Old 12-18-2015, 05:22 PM
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Default Compact 32in16 stagebox for S3L-X?

Hi,

is there any word on the streets about plans for a compact 32in/16out stagebox comparable to the Behringer S32? The available 16/8 stageboxes take far too much room for no good reason, aside being absurdly expensive.

I'm considering S3L-X system as personal FOH, but space is extremely premium and the stageboxes are really unnecessarily bulky (8U vs. 3U for 32/16) compared to the lovely S3L surface and E3 engine. A 3U 32/16 stagebox would be a real winner.

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Old 12-18-2015, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Compact 32in16 stagebox for S3L-X?

Hello Daniel. The Stage 16 is 5 rack space and is probably almost half the depth of most stage racks (and it works great as a stage box as well when you put it on its back)
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Old 12-18-2015, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: Compact 32in16 stagebox for S3L-X?

You're certainly right, but having half of the inputs/outputs on the back really sucks. Even accepting that, we're at 4U, 40cm depth (Stage 16) vs. 3U, 21cm depth (Behringer S32). Not considering 4.5x the price.

Oh, and even when mounting two Stage 4 back-to-back in a 4U rack, you'll have to route the power cables out of one of the rackmount ears - ugly. The again, I would probably ammend the stagebox rack with a small 1U UPS system anyway so I could route the power cables from UPS to stageboxes internally. That would make 5U then vs. 4U, with additional depth compared to S32.

I love the S3L-X concept of a very compact surface plus engine, but AVID didn't really drive this concept home with the stage boxes.

PS: oh, and where is a 1U 8/8 interface for FOH? :)

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Old 12-18-2015, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Compact 32in16 stagebox for S3L-X?

I actually have 64i x 32o (4x Stage 16) in a single Pelican 1650 that I fly with for shows. It's a bit absurd, but it works haha
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Old 12-29-2015, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Compact 32in16 stagebox for S3L-X?

A hinged 4 space rack would be useful. Since the Stage 16's are so shallow, the rack could fold up to the size of one normal depth 4 space rack. They make these for larger racks but I've never seen a 4 space size.

I'm surprised Avid hasn't got together with a case manufacturer to design cases for their consoles, like Digico and Midas do. There are some interesting S3L designs available in Europe, but nothing in the US. At least not that I have seen.
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Old 12-29-2015, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Compact 32in16 stagebox for S3L-X?

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A hinged 4 space rack would be useful. Since the Stage 16's are so shallow, the rack could fold up to the size of one normal depth 4 space rack. They make these for larger racks but I've never seen a 4 space size.
Actually, I have seen this only in 2U, like:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/thon_cdplayercase_standard.htm

This, in symmetric depth, 3U, with a two fictional 3U Stage32 boxes... lovely. 64/32ch in standard-size 3U folded rack. Darn, Christmas already over again... Too bad the Avid stageboxes are the usual half the bang for twice the bucks (and unfortunately in this case more than twice the size) compared to the rest of the market.
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