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Re: HDX vs Native
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That isn't true in my experience, sound01 will find he can open larger sessions on HDN than on HDX1. That's what I found. Just today I opened a large film session that was running on HDX3 on my 2019.5 Native rig with no problems. Those extra voices are brilliant!
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Re: HDX vs Native
Well for now that is true: with 2019.5 HDN has 384 voices whereas HDX1 still has the original 256 voices until Avid releases the firmware update that should bring extra voices for HDX as well.
But in theory HDX3 session can have 768 voices and opening that on HDN will only open first 50% in case one hasn't bought three extra voice packs now available... (and once HDX gets the voice update, HDN system would need 6 extra voice packs to match maxed out HDX3 session)
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Hahahaha. Perfect, thank you.
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It’s as if his HDN system can allocate voices, as and when they were required, rather than it being set by the actual track layout. Does it allocate busses differently? Am I missing something in the manual.....? On another note. Anyone want to buy an HDX card? 1 careful driver. |
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So you can use up your voices on an HDX1 system. On HDN, there is no DSP mixer so everything stays in one place on the native processor. There are some in the post world who would like the ability to define what the HDX card is used for (DSP plugins only, no mixer for instance.) Quite frankly, other than the low latency tracking and the additional features unlocked, HDX1 is kind of a dumb purchase. HDX2 is where things get interesting.
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Re: HDX vs Native
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The precise benefit of HDX is that it is a guarantee of latency. It's base RTL will be at least 4 times better than HDN. Native is certainly capable of low latencies, but it isn't guaranteed. The 3ms of RTL for HDN is dependant on the actual session and system that runs it. That is precisely why so many other interface developers still include their own hardware monitoring paths.
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Funny story, a few years ago I dropped some cash down and purchased an HDN rig with a HDio 8x8 system used. I was thrilled b/c I was gonna get closer to having less problems (better functionality) (so I thought) I got it all setup and had my 8-10 year old daughter come in and overdub a vocal on a session I was working on..... First thing she tells me “it sounds weird in the headphones, like a delay” Omg took all the air out of my ballon I sold it a year or so ago, when i found a killer deal in a HDX card - I won’t be moving anytime soon - no headphone delay
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At one point we'd even tested this by recording the headphone returns and comparing them to the source. The delay was miniscule, and not unlike what we were accustomed to after years of DSP cards. Again, if talent is complaining about delay in the cans, something needs to be addressed, but not Native as a platform. Thousands of people are doing this without issue. |
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I recently had to move back to using my HDN temporarily for tracking and I hated it. From my experience, I've not had a great time tracking using HDN even at the lowest buffer settings. This was especially true when sending output to a headphone that might use an aux for reverb and other effects for vocal tracking. So, a few years ago I took the plunge and bought myself an HDX card. Now I've got two. Probably way overkill for my purposes, but I don't have to worry about how it's going to sound when tracking. Works pretty much perfect every time, and then when it's time to mix I can use either native or dsp plugins. I for one am happy I went HDX. Probably will use these cards until they fail because it doesn't seem like Avid will do another hardware platform anytime soon.
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Though this supposedly coming voice upgrade is going to be a kind of upgrade but still.. history says anytime soon (though don't hold your breath)
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