sync of pro tools m-powered 7.4 to logic 8

[hollebon]

hi,

i have pro tools running on my pc, xp, core 2 quad machine with an m-audio delta 1010lt card, i am looking to sync it up with logic on my mac book pro, which has a m-audiop 1814 firewire card. I have been exploring the various options for this and have so far got no where. i can lock the two cards together using coaxial spdif, but havent managed to slave either program yet as i want to use logic as an instrument.

any suggestions on the different methods, my cards both have; spdif, word clock, and midi in and outs

[jre3132]

make sure you put pro tools online to allow it to sync (whether it is the master or slave). It's option+space on a mac, so I think that would translate to alt+space on a PC. Once it's online (flashing in transport window), just hit play (spacebar) normally.

[hollebon]

aye i have tried that, the best i have managed so far is to get logic starting pro tools, but logic itself wont move.

[jre3132]

Thats usually my mistake. I get everything right but forget that.

Could be way off here, but:
I'm not sure about using spdif for transport/position reference. Its been a long time (about 7 years) since I've had to sync equipment, but I don't remember spdif having that capability (or word clock either). While they are both clock sources and should lock, it is a digital (bit) lock, not a positional lock. I think for master/slave type work you'll need MTC or LTC.

Maybe someone else can confirm?

[hollebon]

i have a MIDI loop set up for the use of mtc, still not getting anywhere

[hollebon]

bump, still no luck getting this one to go even using midi loops

[DigiTechSupt]

Which version of Pro Tools and Logic are you using?

Do you want Pro Tools or Logic to be the master?

[MDog]

Originally Posted by jre3132

Thats usually my mistake. I get everything right but forget that.

Could be way off here, but:
I'm not sure about using spdif for transport/position reference. Its been a long time (about 7 years) since I've had to sync equipment, but I don't remember spdif having that capability (or word clock either). While they are both clock sources and should lock, it is a digital (bit) lock, not a positional lock. I think for master/slave type work you'll need MTC or LTC.

Maybe someone else can confirm?

You are correct. S/PDIF doesn't carry any kind of location reference. The only thing it will do is bypass a couple of A/D & D/A conversions on it's way back and forth.

To the OP: If you're only using Logic for the software instruments, why lock up the sequencers at all? MTC through a MIDI cable isn't the optimum setup anyway. Set up Logic as an external "synth" and just trigger MIDI notes. I actually use Logic 7 as a software synth in my studio too.

[hollebon]

to digi, i would prefer pro tools to be the master but will go either way, i am using both the latest version of logic 8 and pro tools 7.4 m powered although i will update to 8 when it comes out

to mdog i am gonna give the midi trigger mode a go and see if its a viable way to work