DigiLink I/O thing ???

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by Roulette Records

Can you please name these companies that reverse engineered their ports without their permission and got away with any sales for a period of time ? Lets start there.

Apogee, Focusrite, Lynx, Prism for starters. All of the DigiLink interface users are now equally in a need of a license.

[Roulette Records]

Originally Posted by JFreak

Wouldn't we all love that. What could go wrong? Apart from Avid CEO getting lower bonuses... Are you the only person on earth that has not heard Avid has been in financial trouble lately? Lowering prices would really help, I'm sure. But hey, I have only done university mathematics, what would I know.

Yea yea yea, just like PG&E is in trouble lately. lol You ever wonder why huge companies get in this phantom trouble ? You ever notice how no matter how high the prices get they are ALWAYS "in trouble". Always.

The trouble is self induced on purpose, starts from firing all the original knowledgable staff that got you your name, and hiring them Bain Capital type theorists. (purposely crashing a company, huge paychecks, pensions, etc..) Look it up.

Anyway so I see what your trying to get at, and I truly appreciate you still believe in things, lol - But me, I have no heart for those types of businesses and definitely thats what happened to Digidesign, look at their website now. It has the Bain Capital vibe written all over it now.

So now just like the government does, we are suppose to feel sorry for them ? and the poor citizen barely making it has to bail out a giant corporation that has been making money off this citizen for decades ?

I know thats not exactly Avid/Digidesign of course, but my point is to correlate the similarities that are there for sure. Something stinks. We all know it... but you got some nose plugs in or something ? lol

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by Roulette Records

if it really was to punish these phantom reverse engineers, then why punish the end user. They could have invented the license as they did and just give it away for free to anyone who purchases official Avid Ultimate software, untransferable, so this way no reverse engineers stuff would work if purchased and no end user punished

It isn't about punishing, but putting all users on the same line. Requiring the end user showing the license is the only way this can possibly work out. Think about it for one second and you will get it.

It is like I download shareware software that has 30day trial period and for some fluke the software continues working after the trial period. Okay, nice, I can enjoy longer trial, but once the software actually starts working and puts my trial to end, can I complain?

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by Roulette Records

I truly appreciate you still believe in things

Yes dude, I believe you will eventually get this.

[Roulette Records]

Originally Posted by JFreak

Apogee, Focusrite, Lynx, Prism for starters. All of the DigiLink interface users are now equally in a need of a license.

Can not speak for Focusrite and Lynx, but I know Apogee and Prism did not reverse engineer, they paid upfront for the ok to build their units. They have told me directly. The cost is high to do so. If I remember right 100k or so.

Focusrite and Lynx are reputable companies though. Not sure they would do that. There is a patent. Avid would have sued. So.... yea... the theory doesn't make sense. Unless there was no patent.

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by Roulette Records

They have told me directly. If I remember right 100k or so.

Well until I have it in writing I can really not say anything. Hearsay I will not comment.

[lae777]

Originally Posted by Roulette Records

This could be true, THANKS !! I will check. What does it look like ?

In the iLok License Manager it is listed with the rest of the Pro Tools Licenses;

Digilink License.jpeg

It's called "Pro Tools DigiLink I/O".

[Roulette Records]

Originally Posted by JFreak

It isn't about punishing, but putting all users on the same line. Requiring the end user showing the license is the only way this can possibly work out. Think about it for one second and you will get it.

Yes but what I said would work fine, with no cost to us. Think about it for a second. And you will get it.

All in all, its $300, not a big deal. But the principle is a slap in the face when I spend $15k on a company after I've spent $30k over a lifetime or so.

We really are debating about the wrong thing. I'm ok with the license. It is what it is. (I believe phantomly induced though, but ok) - I just think from principle alone, its a slap in the face of the customer to limit I/O in any way once someone has invested in the flagship software/hardware. And HDX cards should be considered that hardware.

[Roulette Records]

Originally Posted by JFreak

Well until I have it in writing I can really not say anything. Hearsay I will not comment.

I agree with that. And you may be right.

But same goes for the heresay that these companies illegally reverse engineered it too.

[Roulette Records]

Originally Posted by lae777

In the iLok License Manager it is listed with the rest of the Pro Tools Licenses;

Attachment 12543

It's called "Pro Tools DigiLink I/O".

Thanks for this. So I checked and mine isn't there. But its ok, I kinda figured it wouldn't be. I think because my HD system is too old ? HD7 Maybe ? IDK.