|
Avid Pro Audio CommunityHow to Join & Post • Community Terms of Use • Help Us Help YouKnowledge Base Search • Community Search • Learn & Support |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Cranesong Phoenix
So I just got the Cranesong stuff. I've only had a little bit of time to drive it so far, but I'm not totally sure about it yet. I've found a few instances where it improved the quality of an instrument, but much of the time, I'm not experiencing anything audible from it.
How hard are you guys typically driving it? I am running the input at 0db, to get the maximum effect. But I've been running the effect knob at around -7 or so. It might be as simple as needing to drive the effect harder. But as I said, I've had limited time with it so far. And I have a service tomorrow, and I don't think I'll have lots of time for experimentation. So I thought I might get some opinions. How do you guys typically drive it, and which settings do you prefer for different instruments and the mix buss? Thanks! |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Cranesong Phoenix
Josh,
We use the Radiant, Dark Essence and Iridescent mostly. There is Radiant/Gold on the main buss and the groups. The electric guitar has a Dark Essence/ opal on it, keyboards both have Iridescent/Gold, piano has Iridescent/opal (our piano is pretty bright so we used the opal setting to warm it up). In some cases there is a noticeable difference in the sound when you take the plug in out, in other cases it is more subtle. It really is just a matter of taking time to play with different things and finding what works for your situation. Scott |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Cranesong Phoenix
The Phoenix can be a pretty subtle effect at times, but on some instruments it can be pretty pronounced depending on how you have it set up. Phoenix, to me, adds a little bit of that analog character back in to the console. Sometimes I think the benefit comes from using more instances vs. just placing it on a couple of instruments. Try adding the Phoenix to some channels and build your mix. Then create a couple snapshots, one with the Phoenix turned on and one with it bypassed. See which one you prefer. Your mileage may vary.
Dave
__________________
David Stagl - Mixer | FOH Engineer http://www.staglproductions.com http://www.goingto11.com |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Cranesong Phoenix
It's one of those plugins that you don't hear much on a track or two, but collectively---you notice it.
|
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Cranesong Phoenix
I got through my first weekend with the venue... and with Phoenix. I definitely found a few instances where it made a noticeable difference. We had a guest Fiddle player, which is unique for our church, but dark essence really sounded great on it. There were a few other items as well.
On the mix bus, I think I was using radiant, and I had it at around 2 o'clock or so. It definitely added a bit of punch. However, I think it may have hurt my gain before feedback ratio on choir mics and lead vocals. Anyone every experience anything similar? |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Cranesong Phoenix
Just remember that the Phoenix is going to add a little bit of compression whevever you use it. Like any compressor, it's going to raise your average volume level which could have an inverse effect on your gain before feedback.
Dave
__________________
David Stagl - Mixer | FOH Engineer http://www.staglproductions.com http://www.goingto11.com |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Cranesong Phoenix
Quote:
One of the things that was mentioned by Scott Lillo of Cranesong is to make sure you do your Eq'ing with the Phoenix already in place rather then adding it afterwards as it will impact GBF and tonal quality. Scott |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
cranesong phoenix / phoenix 2 question | xcx | VENUE Live Sound Systems | 3 | 07-27-2013 07:29 AM |
Wtb: Cranesong phoenix ii | misioka | Buy & Sell | 0 | 07-15-2013 05:05 PM |
CraneSong Phoenix on PT7 | GeneOuse | Pro Tools TDM Systems (Win) | 7 | 07-28-2006 07:07 PM |
Cranesong Phoenix | Stig Eliassen | Tips & Tricks | 14 | 06-27-2006 01:29 PM |
Cranesong Phoenix is here | Belushiman | Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) | 7 | 09-03-2003 07:54 PM |