002r multiple out problems

[cyclonae]

Hello all,

Good day. I hope I can bug you with some output problems with my 002r.

Here's my scenario:
I have a headphone amp with a stereo input.
It also has 6 headphone outs that EACH has an AUX IN.
I thought, man! perfect...
Analog Out 1-2 to Headphone amp's stereo input (whole band mix)
Analog 3 to Headphone 1 AUX IN (drums)
Analog 4 to Headphone 2 AUX IN (guitar)
Analog 5 to Headphone 3 AUX IN (vocals)
...
etc
The idea is to hear the whole band's mix and boost each individual instrument/track on
the headphone amp. But this isn't working.

Here's what I have setup in ProTools LE 7.3.1:

Vocal Track:
From the track's OUTPUT, I selected Analog 1-2 (for the whole band mix) AND
Analog 5 (Output would be going to a dedicated AUX IN on the headphone amp).

In theory, in my headphone amp, I should be able to listen to the whole band mix
(Analog 1-2) and the individual Vocal track (Analog 5).

This isn't working, PTLE *only* outputs either to Analog 1-2 or Analog 5 NOT BOTH.
It should, right? but it does not.

My wiring is correct (I think) as when I only route to Analog 1-2 I can hear it
OR route to Analog 5 I CAN also hear it.
But once I output it to BOTH, I can only hear Analog 1-2 (whole band mix)

Funny thing is, when I go playback an already recorded track, all of a sudden, the
outputs for BOTH are working!!
Which isn't very helpful as I needed this functionality WHILE tracking not AFTER

Can anyone give me some insight to my problem?

Alternative solution is also welcome.

Thanks and Regards,
cyclonae

[Slim Shady]

Use the inserts area to route to additional outputs.

[cyclonae]

Thank you SS.
But it isn't quite clear yet to me...pardon me...

Let me re-phrase my question:
When in "record" mode, how do I setup different headphone mixes for different
musicians?

For simplicity, a sample scenario:
Track 1 (Guitar): Output: Analog 1-2
Track 2 (Main Vocal): Output: Analog 1-2
Track 3 (Backup Vocal): Output: Analog 1-2

From this setup, when in "record" mode I can hear all the tracks coming into my
headphone amp (I have connected Analog outs 1-2 to my headphone amp's inputs)

However, suppose Backup Vocal want to hear more of himself and less of the overall
mix in RECORD MODE/during tracking. How would I do this?

Initially, I thought, "ok. let me Output to Analog 1-2 AND Analog 3, plug Analog 3 Out
from 002r to Aux IN in one of the headphone's Aux IN. That way, I have control on the
Main Mix and Aux IN(Analog 3 which is Backup Vocal)"

But it doesn't work.

I suppose I'm not doing it correctly?

If so, then back to my original question, how do you setup different headphone mixes
for different musicians in "RECORD" mode.

Sorry, if I have missed this in other threads.

Thanks a lot for your time and help.

Regards,
Cyclonae

[Len Grantham]

Check your Low Latency Monitoring and make sure it is turned off.
With it on I don't think it will allow you to use aux sends.

hope this helps
Len

[cyclonae]

Hi Len,

Thanks a lot. You've nailed it! right on the money.
How did you know? I went back to my Digi 002r guide and it didn't say anything about Low Latency Monitoring would disable Aux Sends.

Is this something you've discovered or am I missing some sort of a manual
( hopefully I won't have to read the 700 pages or so of the Digi reference guide)

Thanks again,
Cyclonae

PS. Both my method and SS's method works by disabling Low Latency Monitoring

[Len Grantham]

Glad I could help. I think I ran into the same problem on my old system and had to use external verb. As for where I got the info I think it was on the duc.

Len