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Old 11-27-2019, 12:12 AM
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Default Recommendations for sub set-up and bass management?

I've recently upgraded my system to 5.1 and come to the realization that I have set up my sub incorrectly in addition to mixing improperly for the LFE channel. (sub was only receiving the LFE channel output and nothing else when mixing 5.1)

What would make the most sense for a proper sub set-up and bass management?

I'm using the Yamaha HS series sub, with HS8s for LCR and HS7s for rears.

Interface is Scarlett 18i20.

There is the focusrite control third party software as well for routing and custom channel mixes.

Pro Tools Ultimate 2018.12.0

Any help is appreciated,

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Old 11-27-2019, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Recommendations for sub set-up and bass management?

I stopped bass management years ago.
The subwoofer is for the .1 LFe only!!!
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Old 11-27-2019, 03:55 PM
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I've recently upgraded my system to 5.1 and come to the realization that I have set up my sub incorrectly in addition to mixing improperly for the LFE channel. (sub was only receiving the LFE channel output and nothing else when mixing 5.1)

What would make the most sense for a proper sub set-up and bass management?

I'm using the Yamaha HS series sub, with HS8s for LCR and HS7s for rears.

Interface is Scarlett 18i20.

There is the focusrite control third party software as well for routing and custom channel mixes.

Pro Tools Ultimate 2018.12.0

Any help is appreciated,

Thank you.
Hi, I´m not familiar with your Yamaha setup, but I had a look at your sub specs.

The role of a sub in a 5.1, 7.1, or whatever layout that comprises a .1 channel is to get the LFE discrete channel from your mix. To that extent, your setup was correct. But when you want the same sub that is receiving the LFE channel to also bass manage the remaining speakers in the kit, your going to need a system, either software or hardware that allows the two roles to be handled sharing the same sub main inputs on the cases that there is no separate/dedicated LFE input. As I understood, on your sub, you connect the LR outputs to the sub, and from there you connect your LR speakers. That leaves the rear and center channels out of bass management. So, in your set up, my recommendation would be to use the sub just for the LFE and forget about bass management, as it lacks the necessary I/O for connecting the remaining speakers other than LR.

Just as a reference and to better understand what I´m saying, please check a sub that has all the I/O for bass management and LFE input:

https://www.genelec.com/studio-monit...udio-subwoofer

Maybe there´s other alternatives, but at the moment I can´t figure it out.
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Old 12-05-2019, 06:38 AM
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Default Re: Recommendations for sub set-up and bass management?

I have my monitor calibration in a BlueCatAudio Patchwork setup. Allows me to import that into other DAWs / plugin chains.
For Bass Management I have Waves M360 manager, splitting some of the satellites sub-bass to it.
I feel like it works better in my small room than having 5 fullrange-ish speakers plus an LFE filling the room with low energy.

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Old 12-05-2019, 02:35 PM
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Hi, I think you will find it helpful to read over this thorough and helpful guide that the NARAS Producers and Engineers Wing put together:

Recommendations For Surround Sound Production
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Old 12-10-2019, 06:10 AM
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I haven’t spent much time with this because I run my sub discrete but an alternative to Waves’ bass management is Cargo Cult’s Stemcell:

http://www.thecargocult.nz/stemcell.shtml

Justin at CC is amazing to deal with and it would be more affordable than Waves. If you go the software route, you should check it out.
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