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Old 01-03-2020, 04:35 PM
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Default Triggering VCA spill on S1 is really inconsistent

If I double click the select button on a VCA master on my S1 to spill the group's tracks, it only seems to work about 20% of the time. I often have to double click a bunch of times in a row to get the faders to actually spill. The select buttons work fine for selecting tracks, it's just the VCA spill feature that's flaky. It works fine if I trigger the spill from my dock, and always worked flawlessly on my artist mix.


Anyone else with an s1 seeing this?
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Old 01-04-2020, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: Triggering VCA spill on S1 is really inconsistent

Yep. I'm seeing exactly the same. It seems to be different almost every time
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Old 01-04-2020, 08:06 AM
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Default Re: Triggering VCA spill on S1 is really inconsistent

samething here. No consistant behavior
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Old 01-04-2020, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: Triggering VCA spill on S1 is really inconsistent

Me too, works from the dock, but I have to do it a few times in a row on the S1 to work.

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Old 01-04-2020, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Triggering VCA spill on S1 is really inconsistent

I’ll take a look and document what I find so we can have QA look at it.


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Old 01-04-2020, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Triggering VCA spill on S1 is really inconsistent

I’m finding great consistency once I learned the tempo of the double-tap. It is FAR slower than what the S6 requires, and if you click too fast, it won’t work. But all 3 of my S1s are working great with spill... just had to lock in the timing... and within a few minutes practice, I never miss.

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Old 01-04-2020, 06:39 PM
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I’m finding great consistency once I learned the tempo of the double-tap. It is FAR slower than what the S6 requires, and if you click too fast, it won’t work. But all 3 of my S1s are working great with spill... just had to lock in the timing... and within a few minutes practice, I never miss.

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Thanks for the tip! Slowing down the double click did it for me, if I give a little bit of pause before my second click the spill works everytime. Seems kind of weird though. Hopefully this is something that can be changed with a firmware update?
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Default Re: Triggering VCA spill on S1 is really inconsistent

Greetings,

Here's a quick set of videos describing the double-click interactions with the Sel switches on a single S1 for Spilling VCA Master Tracks. I've documented both the behaviors which consistently trigger correctly as well as those that do not. I'll defer to Eddie on the possibility of further tuning and refinement for the 2x click speed.

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VCA Spill S1 Not Consistent



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Old 05-05-2020, 05:50 AM
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Yeah VCA spill is unusable.
Very disappointed in my S1 so far.
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Old 05-05-2020, 08:46 AM
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Yeah VCA spill is unusable.
Very disappointed in my S1 so far.
I don’t know about “unusable”. It’s just a very specifically timed double tap. Takes some getting used to.
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