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Old 04-24-2018, 10:02 AM
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I wonder how Apple's announcement that they will start manufacturing their own CPU's will affect things going forward. I still remember how much of a PITA the transition from PowerPC to Intel was. If the new "modular" Mac Pros don't have Intel chips, would that be a deal-breaker for audio software? It would probably take years for all the DAWs and plugin manufactures to re-code all of their products for the new chip architecture. Would they just say "no thanks" as many plugin devs did about HDX?
It would be a video production deal breaker for sure just like the trashcan was.
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Still see it available for sale at dealers but it is weird it's been pulled from the Avid website. The dealers would have gotten a notification.

Also not listed on the End of Life list
http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/e...-support-dates
It actually is...
HD Native PCIe Final sale date: 4/7/2018
End of support date: 6/30/2023
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:09 AM
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It actually is...
HD Native PCIe Final sale date: 4/7/2018
End of support date: 6/30/2023
They updated that list yesterday (May 1) to include. Previously it was not on the list.
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It actually is...
HD Native PCIe Final sale date: 4/7/2018
End of support date: 6/30/2023
So I guess that means if I want support I will have to use something different than my mid 2010 Mac Pro after 2024
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With the advances in technology in the last few years, I would have a hard time investing in AVID hardware today.

The discontinued HD Native PCIe card leaves only Thunderbolt Native and HDX options. I wouldn't be surprised if some new development isn't in the works.

Dante seems to really be gaining ground for third party and even the new AVID MTRX has a Dante connection option.
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Old 05-21-2018, 01:59 PM
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Sonnet just came out with this usb c card for old mac pros. There is also a USB C to thunderbolt adapter made by Apple now, really wondering if that would work with the native thunderbolt... most likely not, but maybe Avid is going to come out with a USB C Native box next, would make sense.

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/al...usbc-pcie.html
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Sonnet just came out with this usb c card for old mac pros. There is also a USB C to thunderbolt adapter made by Apple now, really wondering if that would work with the native thunderbolt... most likely not, but maybe Avid is going to come out with a USB C Native box next, would make sense.

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/al...usbc-pcie.html
USB-C is just a plug that can be and is used by different protocols. Kind of confusing.
The adapter only works for USB-C that is used by a thunderbolt source as in the recent Macbook Pros for example. The Sonnet USB-C card is USB 3.1, not thunderbolt, so this adapter won't help to connect thunderbolt devices to an old Mac Pro.
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USB-C is just a plug that can be and is used by different protocols. Kind of confusing.
The adapter only works for USB-C that is used by a thunderbolt source as in the recent Macbook Pros for example. The Sonnet USB-C card is USB 3.1, not thunderbolt, so this adapter won't help to connect thunderbolt devices to an old Mac Pro.
Are you sure? After looking at his link, I did a search and there are lots of people connecting the UA Apollo Thunderbolt units to USB-C computers and from what they all said it works great.

If that’s accurate, why could MacPro towers with the PCIe card mentioned do it as well?
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If that’s accurate, why could MacPro towers with the PCIe card mentioned do it as well?
Who claims that?
I have this card in my MacPro and I use it for fast transfer to external storage drives. That's what it's for. It's not a card that magically gives your computer thunderbolt capabilities. Thunderbolt is wired deep into the architecture and you cannot add that to an old system.

Here's some more elaborate information on this topic from Focusrite:

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Are you sure? After looking at his link, I did a search and there are lots of people connecting the UA Apollo Thunderbolt units to USB-C computers and from what they all said it works great.

If that’s accurate, why could MacPro towers with the PCIe card mentioned do it as well?



I think you're mis-reading this statement:

Got a Thunderbolt connection, but no PCIe slot? The Allegro USB-C PCIe card is ideal for use in any Thunderbolt 2 or Thunderbolt 3 to PCIe card expansion chassis, including Sonnet’s Echo Express™ or xMac™ Thunderbolt to PCI Express card expansion systems, offering full performance wherever you install it—now you can add dual USB-C ports in any current Sonnet Thunderbolt chassis.

What they are saying is that you can install their USB-C card in a Thunderbolt to PCIe external chassis.

The PCIe USB-C Sonnet card will not support Thunderbolt connected devices. Thunderbolt PCIe cards have never existed because Intel requires Thunderbolt to be native on the motherboard.
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