Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Legacy Products > Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac)
Register FAQ Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-03-2007, 10:38 PM
Tony Shepperd Tony Shepperd is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 346
Default Pro Tools vs. Analog Console Mixing...

Has anyone had a chance to listen yet?

ITB vs. Analog Listening Test
__________________
Mixing in the box, requires thinking outside the box.

My New Instructional Mixing DVD 2 is Shipping
www.tonysound.com
http://twitter.com/tonysound
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-04-2007, 01:07 AM
P A M P A M is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 391
Default Re: Pro Tools vs. Analog Console Mixing...

- I´ll go right away ;-)

Awesome.

Cheers
__________________
PAM

Euro-Sound Studio
www.euro-sound.org
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-04-2007, 04:20 AM
Rock_Artist Rock_Artist is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Hertzliya
Posts: 1,482
Default Re: Pro Tools vs. Analog Console Mixing...

One thing they didn't mention is how it was recorded...

The SSL for example has great impact as a recording console.
And while there's outboard tools that we use all the time on many chances using a great console for recording keeps the color whether it was mixed ITB or with analog console)

One thing I should admit.
I took the Hard Rock test.
I got all the answers opposite - making the SSL -> ITB & ITB -> SSL.
The continuos test went better as I've knew the difference between the 2 so I got 10/13.
__________________
Just wanna do music,
RA.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-04-2007, 10:43 AM
andrew haller andrew haller is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: los angeles
Posts: 138
Default Re: Pro Tools vs. Analog Console Mixing...

Hey Tony...Thanks for the link.
I think the test really shows how far the mix buss and plug ins have come. Thats great.
Is it just me, or do you think that they should have used the vca's in the comparision?
After all, the line amps in a ssl ARE part of the sound.

Now I really want those Waves SSL plugs.........................
A
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-04-2007, 12:36 PM
Aquarius Aquarius is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: City Of Lights
Posts: 601
Default Re: Pro Tools vs. Analog Console Mixing...

Hi,

First, I have to declare I never used a "large format console" to mix a song. I'm a computer guy and always used PT for my work.

Here's my report so far on the test :

When I read the news, I decided to give it a test at home on my wife's MacBookPro (using the internal speakers of course)...
Well, on the first tune I got 8 good answers out of ten and it felt the analog console mix was punchier and cleaner...

Ok, that's just my ears & my wife's computer but I had to say it !

I'll try the same test tomorrow in the studio and let you know.

Cheers,

A.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-04-2007, 01:49 PM
kittonian kittonian is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA - USA
Posts: 334
Default Re: Pro Tools vs. Analog Console Mixing...

I got 10 out of 13 on the Alt/Rock Continuous. It was really close but I could definitely hear (at least for the most part) the quality difference between ITB and mixing on an SSL.

Nice test.
__________________
Joshua Aaron
President/Chief Eng.
AudioLot/AudioLot Studios
Pro Audio Sales/Consulting
http://www.audiolot.com

Follow AudioLot on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-05-2007, 09:06 AM
Touchwood Studios Touchwood Studios is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 867
Default Re: Pro Tools vs. Analog Console Mixing...

Great Test I liked it
Now can we have a Nuendo / Logic / Protools HD / LE test ...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-05-2007, 09:57 AM
25ghosts 25ghosts is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Posts: 3,333
Default Re: Pro Tools vs. Analog Console Mixing...

I'm downloading as I write. Just finished watching the video. And I really had to smile as the long haired guy said: Anyone mixing a lot has always had the chance to experience turning a know on a fader on an EQ thinking it sounds better without that EQ actually being punched in....

I think the video was great... and that it is dealing with a very important topic.
__________________
2016 MacBook Pro Retina | 16GB RAM | 1TB SSD | OS X Latest - PTHD 12 Latest | 4K LG Thunderbolt Display | Logic Pro 10
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Howardk Howardk is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Canada, just past the line!
Posts: 1,994
Default Re: Pro Tools vs. Analog Console Mixing...

Great to have Digi's help providing some good information to help sell people/cleints on the fact ProTools ITB does a great job. I just downloaded the rock file and can't hear the difference with my Westone in-ears on my computer, I will listen again when back in the studio. Even if there is a difference, ProTools sounds great (good enough) so at this point the focus that truly makes a song is the musical ideas and the source sounds. BTW I do fly dates with a national act and have been mixing on many different live consoles, including the Digidesign Venue, which seems to sound best over the Yamaha 1D and 5D Digital consoles, and is nicer to mix on.
__________________
...for system configuration info see my profile
(Click on member name)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-05-2007, 03:25 PM
EGS's Avatar
EGS EGS is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,699
Default Re: Pro Tools vs. Analog Console Mixing...

Quote:
...the focus that truly makes a song is the musical ideas...
Hooray!!!
__________________
Desktop build: PT 2020.5 / Win 11 / i9-11900K @ 5.1GHz / 64GB / 4TB NVMe PCIe 4 / Gigabyte Z590 Vision D / PreSonus 2626
Laptop: PT 2020.5 / Win 11 / i5-12500H / 16GB / 1TB NVMe / Lenovo IdeaPad 5i Pro / U-PHORIA UMC1820
Ancient/Legacy (still works!): PT 5 & 6 / OS9 & OSX / Mac G4 / DIGI 001
Click for audio/video demo
Click for resume
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mixing with analog console johnnyz Pro Tools HDX & HD Native Systems (Mac) 8 07-07-2011 09:32 AM
Analog Console vs ProTools Mixing TEST teacherman Tips & Tricks 1 08-16-2007 09:15 AM
PT vs. Analog Console Mixing Shan 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Win) 0 08-04-2007 07:40 PM
Mixing In Pro Tools Vs. an Analog Console? CraigD 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 14 01-16-2004 09:52 PM
Interfacing 888 analog output with analog console Siegfried Meier Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 3 09-12-2003 01:26 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:39 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com