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Old 02-09-2009, 11:39 PM
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Default Pro Tools 8 LE multiple problems

Hi,


I can't make it to the end of the song!

I'm relatively new (a year now) to the digital audio arena and my addiction to Pro Tools is becoming a growing source of FRUSTRATION for me.

My problems, specs (including SANDRA report) and attempted fixes are all listed below. (this is one looooooong message)

I'm just a musician... yisturday i didint no how ta spel dijatal awdio engenere... taday i r wun.

PLEASE... HELP ME.

THANX for your time... (^_^)

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SESSION SETUP
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Pro Tools 8 LE
Digi 003
96kHz recording

1ea Master fader track with IKMultiMedia's ARC plug-in (room correction for the monitors... NON NEGOTIABLE for mixing and/or getting record "tones", I'll deactivate it for recording though).

2ea Aux Return stereo tracks.

6ea MIDI tracks SEND to the Strike drum plug-in AND I use it's built in inserts for EQ, Mics and verb.

1ea Stereo instrument track RETURNs the Strike drum plug-in.

1ea Stereo Instrument track (sends to & returns from) an external ROLAND PMA-5 sound module that also gets inserted to Line 6's Pod Farm plug-in.

17ea Waveform tracks (no sugar on these tracks... I'm afraid to insert any more plug-ns).

(NOTE: I keep ALL tracks "inactive" EXCEPT for the ones needed to complete the task at hand)

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Playback Engine settings (currently)
NOTE: I've tried a ton of different combinations
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H/W Buffer = 1024
RTAS Processors = 3
CPU Usage Limit = 90%
RTAS Engine = (see notes in PROBLEM #1 below)
Disk Buffer Size = Level 2
Cache Size = Normal
System Usage Meter Window:
PCI = 0%
CPU (RTAS) = 25% - 32%
CPU (Elastic) = 1%
Disk = 3% - 6%

NOTE: I don't know why "Elastic" registers on the meter. I haven't used it yet.
=============================
NOTE: twice I've done "complete" uninstalls and reinstalls (including deleting the relavant database and preference folders)
=============================
PROBLEM: #01
Playback stops (multiple instances)
ERROR MESSAGE:
#9128 Running out of CPU power. Remove RTAS plug-ins, increase CPU usage limit
=============================
PROBLEM: #02
003 goes offline and PC freezes (multiple instances)
ERROR MESSAGE:
N/A
=============================
PROBLEM: #03
Pro Tools locks up (multiple instances)
ERROR MESSAGE:
N/A
=============================
PROBLEM: #04
Need to exit and restart Pro Tools (multiple instances)
ERROR MESSAGE:
Pro Tools application has encountered a problem and needs to close.
=============================
PROBLEM: #05
Access Violation, need to exit and restart Pro Tools (multiple instances)
ERROR MESSAGE:
#1
Access violation occurred, unable to read location: 0x0000CC04 at address: 0x1001F000 in module CFnd.dll
#2
Access violation occurred, unable to read location: 0x6C756196 at address: 0x009F$F$D in module DFW.dll
#3
Access violation occurred, unable to read location: 0x6C75619E at address: 0x009F43E9 in module DFW.dll
#4
Access violation occurred, unable to read location: 0x00006900 at address: 0x009A6625 in module DFW.dll
#5
Access violation occurred, unable to read location: 0x000001D2 at address: 0x03E3601A in module Protools.dll
#6
Access violation occurred, unable to write location: 0x0F5DF7ED at address: 0x00364359 in module DigiPlatformSupport.dll
#7
Access violation occurred, unable to write location: 0x00000011 at address: 0x77F36C4B in module GDI.dll
=============================
PROBLEM: #06
Digital Feedback??? (multiple instances) Some of the meters "peg". During any single instance of this problem the pitch of the feedback remains constant. Pitch can vary "between" instances. I usually can grab the volume knob fast enough to save the speakers but one time (while listening to a louder take AND the feedback sounding like a high pitched "white noise") I ended up losing both my tweeters on my NS-10M monitors. Sometimes the PC freezes up. Sometimes just Protools freezes up (and sometimes freezing is accompanied by speckles of "pixilization artifacts" occurring on the display screen).
ERROR MESSAGE:
N/A
=============================
PROBLEM: #07
Blue screen of death (multiple instances)
ERROR MESSAGE:
#1
A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down.
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
If this is the first time ... yada, yada, yada...
#2
A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down.
If this is the first time ... yada, yada, yada...
Technical Information:
#1
*** STOP: 0x00000050 (0xE3DA66F8,0x00000000,0x80551255,0x00000001)
#2
*** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005,0xBF805378,0xB5F1EC84,0x00000008)
*** win32.sys - address BF805378 base at BF800000, datestamp 48ce513a
=============================
PROBLEM: #08
MIDI instrument is inactive after opening Protools. Sometimes Pro Tools "loses" the 003's input & output ports on MIDI Setup Screen window (multiple instances)
ERROR MESSAGE:
N/A
=============================
PROBLEM: #09
Meters go blank (although playback is working), able to save file, but then, the program locks upon exit (multiple instances)
ERROR MESSAGE:
N/A
=============================
PROBLEM: #10
Meters freeze, MIDI tracks stop playback, waveform tracks keep playing... able to click "OK" to error message, stop playback and exit then renter Pro Tools. (multiple instances)
ERROR MESSAGE:
Access violation occurred, unable to read location: 0x99E634A6 at address: 0x04284373 in module Protools.dll
=============================
PROBLEM: #11
Playback stops (multiple instances)
ERROR MESSAGE:
The operating system held off interupts for too long. If this occurs often, try increasing the "HW Buffer Size" in the Playback Engine Dialog box -9094.
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COMPUTER SETUP
==========================================
==========================================
NOTE: System is a "dedicated" digital audio workstation running with DUAL MONITORS
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MSconfig
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DO NOT load Startup Items, ALL services diabled EXCEPT FOR... Microsoft, Digidesign MME Refresh, digiSPTI, and M-Audio Series II MIDI Installer
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PRO TOOLS CUSTOM DEVICE PROFILE
-------------------------------
I disabled all "known" (un-needed) devices per Digidesign recommendations. I'm not a savvy device guru so... if I didn't know what a device was (or did), I DID NOT disable it.

NOTE: Network and Printers were ENABLED to assemble the Sandra and Device Manager reports (those are normally disabled when I run Pro Tools).
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SANDRA REPORT
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System
Host Name : STUDIO1
User : f
Workgroup : ADMINISTRATION

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Speed : 2.40GHz
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
Internal Data Cache : 4x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 2x 4MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 16-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing

System
System : System manufacturer P5K
Mainboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5K
Bus(es) : ISA PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : Yes
System BIOS : American Megatrends Inc. 0603
Total Memory : 3.25GB DIMM DDR2 DDR3

Chipset
Model : ASUS P35/G33/G31 Processor to I/O Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 267MHz (1.07GHz)
Total Memory : 22.25GB DIMM DDR2 DDR3
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 401MHz (802MHz)
Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CM2X1024-6400C4 1GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5.0-5-5-18 3-22-6-3)
Memory Module : Corsair CM2X1024-6400C4 1GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5.0-5-5-18 3-22-6-3)
Memory Module : Corsair CM2X1024-6400C4 1GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5.0-5-5-18 3-22-6-3)
Memory Module : Corsair CM2X1024-6400C4 1GB DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400U DDR2-800 (5.0-5-5-18 3-22-6-3)

Video System
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT (256MB DDR3, 500MHz/1.16GHz/2x702MHz, PCIe 1.00 x16, PS3.0, VS3.0, 2 Heads)
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT (256MB DDR3, 500MHz/1.16GHz/2x702MHz, PCIe 1.00 x16, PS3.0, VS3.0)

Graphics Processor
Adapter : GeForce 8600 GT (1.01, 256MB, 1.19GHz)

Storage Devices
WDC WD800JD-22MSA1 80GB (SATA300, NCQ, 8MB Cache) : 75GB (C:)
WDC WD5000AAKS-00YGA0 500GB (SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache) : 466GB (D:)
WDC WD5000AAKS-75YGA0 500GB (SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache) : 466GB (E:) (H:)
WD 2500JB External 250GB (USB) : 233GB (G:)
LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163 (SCSI, DVD-R, CD-R) : N/A (F:)

Logical Storage Devices
System (C:) : 75GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD800JD-22MSA1 80GB (SATA300, NCQ, 8MB Cache)
PTdata (D:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD5000AAKS-00YGA0 500GB (SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache)
Data (E:) : 462GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD5000AAKS-75YGA0 500GB (SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache)
VM_PageFile (H:) : 4GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD5000AAKS-75YGA0 500GB (SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache)
CD-ROM/DVD (F:) : N/A @ LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163 (SCSI, DVD-R, CD-R)
MediaMp3 (G:) : 233GB (NTFS) @ WD 2500JB External 250GB (USB)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : ASUS (ICH9) LPC Interface Controller
Disk Controller : ASUS (ICH9) 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1
Disk Controller : ASUS (ICH9) 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2
Disk Controller : ASUS JMB36X PCIE-to-SATAII/IDE RAID Controller
USB Controller 1 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller
USB Controller 2 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller
USB Controller 3 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller
USB Controller 4 : ASUS (ICH9) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
USB Controller 5 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller
USB Controller 6 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller
USB Controller 7 : ASUS (ICH9) USB Universal Host Controller
USB Controller 8 : ASUS (ICH9) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : Avlab Technology TSB43AB23 1394a-2000 OHCI PHY/link-layer Controller
FireWire/1394 Controller 2 : ASUS VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller
System SMBus Controller 1 : Intel 801xx/63xx SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Printer : Microsoft Office Document Image Writer Driver (300x300, Colour)
Printer : Brother MFC-8860DN Printer (1200x1200)
Printer : HP Color LaserJet 4500 (600x600, Colour)
Printer : HP Color LaserJet 4500 (600x600, Colour)
Printer : Adobe PDF Converter (4000x4000, Colour)
Printer : Epson FX-850 (240x144)
Printer : HP Color LaserJet 4500 PCL 6 (600x600, Colour)

Network Services
Network Adapter : Attansic L1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

Power Management
Mains (AC) Line Status : On-Line

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 3)
Platform Compliance : x86

Performance Tips
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:21 AM
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Have you updated all of your plugins for PT8? Have you removed those that can't be updated? Do you think you could generate a plugin list? Even if you are not instantiating outdated plugins, just having them active in the plugins folder can cause big problems.
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Also which Firewire controller are you using for your 003?
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:49 AM
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Do you have your 003 connected to the FW port driven by the Avlab Technology TSB43AB23 chip? That's actually a TI and is the one recommended by Digi. I doubt the other one would work very well.

Have you tried faster/different RAM? DDR2-800 is fairly slow for that motherboard.

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Old 02-10-2009, 11:33 PM
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Hi Tom & Bill,

THANK YOU for your replies.

I hope I'm responding properly (by replying to BOTH of you in the same message). Please let me know if I should follow some other protocol.

Before I respond I forgot to mention in the starting message post... when I was using 7.4 I had to reboot maybe 2-4 times per month. Since committing to PT 8.0 it's about 6-12 times per session.

>>
Have you updated all of your plugins for PT8?
<<
In December (when I originally got PT8) and then again today.

>>
Have you removed those that can't be updated?
<<
No. BEFORE I updated to PT8 I got ahold of Line6 (for PodFarm & GearBox), IK MultiMedia (for ARC) & DigiDesign (for Strike). All manufacturers assured me they were compatible with PT8.

>>
Do you think you could generate a plugin list?
<<
Generate? How do you "generate" a list? If you mean MANUALLY type a list of ALL plug-ins then... uhhhh... how about this (NOTE: all items taken from Pro Tools LE 7.4 and/or 8.0 "bundled packages" EXCEPT for IK MultiMedia, Line6 & Strike):

Bomb Factory (4ea items)
DigiDesign (59ea items INCLUDING Strike)
IK MultiMedia (1ea item)
Line6 (2ea items)
Trillium Lane Labs (4ea items)

>>
Even if you are not instantiating outdated plugins, just having them active in the plugins folder can cause big problems.
<<
I didn't know that. OK, I just uninstalled Reason Adapted 4, Torq and 2ea Izotope plug-ins.

NOTE: Since the Bomb Factory and Trillium stuff isn't listed in Windows "Add/Remove Programs" I don't know how to uninstall them (as of yet I have not used them).

>>
Also which Firewire controller are you using for your 003?
<<
I don't remember the model number but... it is a card I purchased per the spec listed on the DigiDesign web site last January 2008 (when I had the PC built). The card contains the TI chip.

FYI, although I run with the TI card, the 003 also works the same with the motherboard's firewire.

>>
Do you have your 003 connected to the FW port driven by the Avlab Technology TSB43AB23 chip?
<<
Yes (it shows up on the SANDRA report)

>>
Have you tried faster/different RAM?
<<
No.

>>
DDR2-800 is fairly slow for that motherboard.
>>
Slow? Did I screw up somethng? Are my 800s causing these problems?

At the time of my build (January 2008) FASTER chips were available. As I revisit my build spec emails to the local PC shop, this is what I found...

"
---->ItemNo:A4300563--CORSAIR TWIN2X2048-8500C5D 2048MB XMS2-8 Qty: 2
Holy $#!%... a $290 increase to the bottom line?... AND that's after taking the mouse and keyboard off?... AND I don't get to "use" the 4th gb?!!! haHahaHaha... forget that! Use the 800s.
"

I had to chuckle when I saw "that" quote (what a cheapskate I am).

Looks like there's a promo ($78 for 4gb AFTER rebate) on these Corsairs until Feb 15th. What do you think? Will it be a PROBLEM SOLVER?

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Updated two plug-ins (not availible when I got PT8) and removed others (as mentioned above) I started work on a session and here is the result:
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PROBLEM: #11
Playback Engine settings were set at
H/W Buffer = 1024
RTAS Processors = 3
CPU Usage Limit = 95%
RTAS Engine = unchecked
Disk Buffer Size = Level 2
Cache Size = Normal

Playback stops (not quite completing the 2nd pass on a LARGE loop)

ERROR MESSAGE:
The operating system held off interupts for too long. If this occurs often, try increasing the "HW Buffer Size" in the Playback Engine Dialog box -9094.
----------------

Playback Engine settings were set at
H/W Buffer = 1024
RTAS Processors = 4
CPU Usage Limit = 85%
RTAS Engine = unchecked
Disk Buffer Size = Level 2
Cache Size = Normal

Hmmmmm... strange... I expected an error to pop up a lot quicker after INCREASING Processors and DECREASING Usage Limit. Instead I completed 7 passes on the LARGE loop WITHOUT getting an error (finally had to stop to move on to the next song part).

Played around with a SMALL loop for about an hour without incident.

Increased my selection loop to include BOTH previous selections and started to play along. COULD NOT COMPLETE the first pass. Same error. I'm noticing (when it does occur) it's in the same area of the song (right after a big crash crescendo/break). FYI, my Strike cymbals are set to medium (playback quality).

ERROR MESSAGE:
The operating system held off interupts for too long. If this occurs often, try increasing the "HW Buffer Size" in the Playback Engine Dialog box -9094.

Another thing I noticed is I DID NOT have to REBOOT the PC during my 2.5hr session (which was nice for a change). Still haven't added any sugar to any of the waveform tracks though.

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BTW, since I am on the front end of this digital audio experience AND out of curiosity... GIVEN... a quad core, 4gb ram and a dedicated 7200rpm audio recording drive AND... IF everything WAS working just fine... what do YOU GUYS think I should "reasonably expect" for an average "active" TRACK and PLUG-IN count?

Well I'm hungry... time for some chow.

THANX AGAIN for your time... Frankie J (^_^)
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yyyesbaby View Post
Before I respond I forgot to mention in the starting message post... when I was using 7.4 I had to reboot maybe 2-4 times per month. Since committing to PT 8.0 it's about 6-12 times per session.
With any PT version it's usually a good idea to reboot every few days, at least.

Quote:
No. BEFORE I updated to PT8 I got ahold of Line6 (for PodFarm & GearBox), IK MultiMedia (for ARC) & DigiDesign (for Strike). All manufacturers assured me they were compatible with PT8.
For the purposes of testing to determine the cause of errors like you're having it's best to remove anything that didn't come with PT8.

Quote:
>>
Do you think you could generate a plugin list?
<<
Generate? How do you "generate" a list? If you mean MANUALLY type a list of ALL plug-ins then... uhhhh... how about this (NOTE: all items taken from Pro Tools LE 7.4 and/or 8.0 "bundled packages" EXCEPT for IK MultiMedia, Line6 & Strike):
You can generate a list with version numbers from the Digidesign Tech Support Utility. It's in the Downloads section of the website.

Quote:
>>
Even if you are not instantiating outdated plugins, just having them active in the plugins folder can cause big problems.
<<
I didn't know that. OK, I just uninstalled Reason Adapted 4, Torq and 2ea Izotope plug-ins.

NOTE: Since the Bomb Factory and Trillium stuff isn't listed in Windows "Add/Remove Programs" I don't know how to uninstall them (as of yet I have not used them).
All RTAS plug-ins live in the directory c:\program files\common files\digidesign\DAE\plugins. There is a .dpm and .rsr file for each plugin. Simply move an appropriate pair out of that directory (into the 'unused' directory, for example). You don't actually have to go through the uninstall process except for permanent removals. Moving them just prevents PT from seeing them when it runs.

Quote:
>>
Also which Firewire controller are you using for your 003?
<<
I don't remember the model number but... it is a card I purchased per the spec listed on the DigiDesign web site last January 2008 (when I had the PC built). The card contains the TI chip.

FYI, although I run with the TI card, the 003 also works the same with the motherboard's firewire.
Confirm that the 003 is really connected to the card with the TI chip.

Quote:
>>
Have you tried faster/different RAM?
<<
No.

>>
DDR2-800 is fairly slow for that motherboard.
>>
Slow? Did I screw up somethng? Are my 800s causing these problems?

At the time of my build (January 2008) FASTER chips were available. As I revisit my build spec emails to the local PC shop, this is what I found...

"
---->ItemNo:A4300563--CORSAIR TWIN2X2048-8500C5D 2048MB XMS2-8 Qty: 2
Holy $#!%... a $290 increase to the bottom line?... AND that's after taking the mouse and keyboard off?... AND I don't get to "use" the 4th gb?!!! haHahaHaha... forget that! Use the 800s.
"

I had to chuckle when I saw "that" quote (what a cheapskate I am).

Looks like there's a promo ($78 for 4gb AFTER rebate) on these Corsairs until Feb 15th. What do you think? Will it be a PROBLEM SOLVER?
Not a guarantee that faster RAM will fix all (or any) of the problems you're describing, but it will certainly improve overall performance.

You should be able to find good DDR2-1333 RAM for about that same price (as the sale).

Quote:
PROBLEM: #11
Playback Engine settings were set at
H/W Buffer = 1024
RTAS Processors = 3
CPU Usage Limit = 95%
RTAS Engine = unchecked
Disk Buffer Size = Level 2
Cache Size = Normal

Playback stops (not quite completing the 2nd pass on a LARGE loop)

ERROR MESSAGE:
The operating system held off interupts for too long. If this occurs often, try increasing the "HW Buffer Size" in the Playback Engine Dialog box -9094.
----------------

Playback Engine settings were set at
H/W Buffer = 1024
RTAS Processors = 4
CPU Usage Limit = 85%
RTAS Engine = unchecked
Disk Buffer Size = Level 2
Cache Size = Normal

Hmmmmm... strange... I expected an error to pop up a lot quicker after INCREASING Processors and DECREASING Usage Limit. Instead I completed 7 passes on the LARGE loop WITHOUT getting an error (finally had to stop to move on to the next song part).

Played around with a SMALL loop for about an hour without incident.

Increased my selection loop to include BOTH previous selections and started to play along. COULD NOT COMPLETE the first pass. Same error. I'm noticing (when it does occur) it's in the same area of the song (right after a big crash crescendo/break). FYI, my Strike cymbals are set to medium (playback quality).

ERROR MESSAGE:
The operating system held off interupts for too long. If this occurs often, try increasing the "HW Buffer Size" in the Playback Engine Dialog box -9094.

Another thing I noticed is I DID NOT have to REBOOT the PC during my 2.5hr session (which was nice for a change). Still haven't added any sugar to any of the waveform tracks though.
I usually run the disk cache size at LARGE rather than NORMAL. It can eliminate transient problems. Sometimes, moving the buffer size to 2048 will help smooth things out.

Quote:
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BTW, since I am on the front end of this digital audio experience AND out of curiosity... GIVEN... a quad core, 4gb ram and a dedicated 7200rpm audio recording drive AND... IF everything WAS working just fine... what do YOU GUYS think I should "reasonably expect" for an average "active" TRACK and PLUG-IN count?
Dozens. Easily.

Do you still get the same symptoms when not using Strike? I have since switched to BFD2, but when I was using Strike I found that it was quite memory hungry even at what should be modest settings, AND it started acting strangely (it and the entire system) after making a series of kit piece substitutions, mixer changes, etc. Once things got to that point the only solution was to close PT and restart.

Are you using the /3G switch in boot.ini to get the extra 1G memory allocation to the OS? Without it, PT will quickly run out of memory, especially with hungry VI's.

Most of the problems you describe can be caused by inadequate memory, sluggish disk i/o, or just poor system performance in general, including a heavily fragmented PT data disk. A few of the really crazy messages you're getting could happen with PT is running memory starved (past the point of just starting to have errors) or there is a hardware problem such as bad RAM, flaky mobo, etc. But since everything seemed ok in 7.4 we can at least for now rule out bad hardware issues.

I've seen almost all these issues at one time or another when PT8 (especially) runs memory starved, but it can also happen with PT7.

I hope something from this might be helpful.

--Bill

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Old 09-08-2009, 09:34 AM
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I really need help, this is the last straw... I've been having assertion errors for months now with my pro tools 8. Could not complete your request because access violation have occured on blah blah blah Msvcr80.dll, Dae.dll, Ntdll.dll, C++ Runtime Errors, everyday of my life this is a norm for me.... Til I thought it was some incompatibility issue so I Got the proper specs and built a Rigorous Pro tools system which cost me US1,358. AND I AM STILL GETTING THE ERRORS... The errors only come up when I hit record, Pro tool records with the pink line going accross without the WAV form drawing, Once I hit stop ERROR! and pro tools has to close... Occasionally when i record it Draws a loud White noise pattern on screen, And a while ago It recorded a AUDIO FROM A SESSION THATS A MONTH OLD! into a new session I started... Is it a hard drive issue?? What should I do? Get Nuendo, Logic, Cake Walk LOL??? HEEEELLLP!!!!!!
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I really need help, this is the last straw... I've been having assertion errors for months now with my pro tools 8. Could not complete your request because access violation have occured on blah blah blah Msvcr80.dll, Dae.dll, Ntdll.dll, C++ Runtime Errors, everyday of my life this is a norm for me.... Til I thought it was some incompatibility issue so I Got the proper specs and built a Rigorous Pro tools system which cost me US1,358. AND I AM STILL GETTING THE ERRORS... The errors only come up when I hit record, Pro tool records with the pink line going accross without the WAV form drawing, Once I hit stop ERROR! and pro tools has to close... Occasionally when i record it Draws a loud White noise pattern on screen, And a while ago It recorded a AUDIO FROM A SESSION THATS A MONTH OLD! into a new session I started... Is it a hard drive issue?? What should I do? Get Nuendo, Logic, Cake Walk LOL??? HEEEELLLP!!!!!!
First things first... you need to start a new post with your specific problem instead of digging up one that is six months old.

Next, you need to read the General Troubleshooting post and follow the directions there for posting the information we need about your computer. Without that information, anything anybody says here is just a guess. Please include a plugin list using the Tech support Utility (as mentioned in the General Troubleshooting post).
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