When will we get full ARA support?

[spinsong]

I just looked it up. ARA, otherwise known as, audio random access, is a memory hog. I’m against it. By allowing more accessibility to plug ins using more information, you are raising the ram memory requirements. We have enough problems with plug ins causing protools to crash, and with less memory on the new macs, who would want to make it worse, and an arrogant and obnoxious comment against the developers is not going to make it any better.
So open up your programs folks and start chopping away even if it means calling the Campbell’s soup kids.

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[Mark Ziebarth]

What’s the proof for your suspicion ARA causes RAM issues?
I had a RAM problem yesterday while using 10 instances of Melodyne in Pro Tools although my Mac mini has 64 GB of RAM and ARA wasn’t involved.

[spinsong]

Imagine if it did have ARA what then. You had 64 gb ram and your computer choked. The new macs have 8 or 16 ram max. If you address more functions involving audio to individual plug in instances, then you require more ram and are more prone to crashes than your case which has more ram available even though it was amongst those who crashed.


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[JFreak]

ARA is not memory problem as it is not as realtime as you think. Even if you had a terabyte of stuff "read into memory" most of it would be swapped to disk and the new Apple Silicon machines are said to have 3GB/s disk access.

What it really means is direct access to the timeline, it does not necessarily mean the WHOLE track is in memory like Disk Cache. Think of realtime bounce vs. offline bounce, ARA is just that. You don't need to read stuff realtime into plugin memory before you start working on it.

I am pretty certain they are working on it, because now every PT customer with current support plan has Melodyne Essential. Guessing though, but connecting the dots isn't very hard IMO.

[spinsong]

Audio Random Access requires Random access memory otherwise known as ram. Ram is addressed by an off and on function it’s not variable. The memory requirement increases not decreases. Decreased memory requirement would be a good implementation. However, it usually results in a crash.


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[JFreak]

Originally Posted by spinsong

Audio Random Access requires Random access memory otherwise known as ram.

And a step further, do you happen to know what the operating system does once it runs out of physical memory known as ram?

[SomeOtherGuy]

Originally Posted by spinsong

Audio Random Access requires Random access memory otherwise known as ram. Ram is addressed by an off and on function it’s not variable.


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None of us care about RAM or whatever--many of us need and want ARA support for Melodyne--end of story. And it's most likely on the way anyhow...

[spinsong]

Work on an older machine using your player piano app then import. I’d rather not have protools crash over it. It’s a monster tape machine as it is. I’ve worked with melodyne and protools together way before it was implemented in the current version without any hiccups. You have people complaining about the cost of protools. All the while it’s these same people asking for proprietary functions which in this case is a joint venture between celemony and presonus and those aforementioned people are not willing to pay the extra price tag while we’re being driven to pay for it by them, the complainers. The solution is higher plug in cost. Put your money where your mouth is.


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