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Re: Mavericks Clean install. PT LE8 user. What files to transfer?
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Nobody tried to be rude, it's just that Protools is a special software and you really REALLY *REALLY* need to follow the compatibility guidelines. In fact, always read them first and then decide what to upgrade and when. Studios that use PT for making money don't upgrade often and PT is made for professionals and not someone who just buys new computer every now and then without thinking. You cannot compare like "why my Excel always works", because PT uses very low level hardware drivers for lowest possible latency and it's nothing like "normal" software. So, if you need to use PT you need to follow PT compatibility guidelines, period.
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Re: Mavericks Clean install. PT LE8 user. What files to transfer?
There you may see the LE8-PT11 Upgrade costs ($399.-).
http://www.sweetwater.com/feature/protools11/ You can buy it from there, from the Avid shop directly etc. It should be about the same price everywhere. Me personally just see 3 ways to go for you actually: 1. the easiest one is just to upgrade from LE8 to PT11 2. would be to buy a 2nd used 2010/2011-Mac/MacBook (whatever) where you still could install Mac OS Snow Leopard 10.6.8 which is compatible with LE8 and use this setup as a completely separated music recording unit which would have nothing to do with your recent Mavericks-Mac. Could have it´s advantages too (never have to care about OS updates anymore, never experience stability issues in the future, being independent from your "everyday"-computer, being save from security issues as you just could stay offline with the music unit). 3. if you are too fed up with Digidesign/Avid... (though I have to say I just share the opinion from the others here as PT simply is a specialized, professional software which users will have to adjust to. It´s no "user-oriented" consumer-software which will be build to fit everybody´s needs everytime like Apple Mac OS or Windows. It´s meant for working in a specialized, professional environment though it even has become user-friendly in a way IMO anyway), ...then you might find a friend who still has PT and just bounce your files out of PT there. You then could just go and buy Logic Pro X which is only $199.- https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/logi...34148309?mt=12 still a very good, useable DAW which always will be kinda "synced" to Apple´s developments of their Mac OS. So you would be save from being outdated/incompatible with future Mac OS updates. Finally you could import your files to a new Logic session and go on working on your projects. That´s the only 3 variations I see for you. If you want to have/need Pro Tool´s specialized functions and workflow I think you should just bite the bullet and go for the upgrade. If you are not bound to PT in a way actually, you may give Logic a try. Fact is, if you wanna use Pro Tools you always will have to keep yourself informed about and adjusted to it in kinda way because it´s just specialized software. Anyway. Wishing you best of success, cheers, VRW MacMini i7Quad, 16GB Ram, MBP Mid 2012 2,5GHz i5, 16GB Ram, MacOS 10.9.2, Apogee Quartet+Duet 2, Genelec Active, Yamaha NS10, Pro Tools 11.1.3, Logic 10.0.6, Waves, MCDSP, Duende Native, Softube, HOFA, IK Multimedia etc. |
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Re: Mavericks Clean install. PT LE8 user. What files to transfer?
JFreak....my sincere apology for say southsidemusic's words were yours. I need to be more careful when quoting especially when it is somewhat frictional.
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Re: Mavericks Clean install. PT LE8 user. What files to transfer?
The bottom line here is, I went from a person being able to home record, to hanging up my recording aspirations and carrying on with other life things. It is a sad situation. I appreciate all of your advice comments, but, I have not the money for investments in spare computers or expensive upgrades that fit Macintosh software. It is unfortunate that I took the PT route, as I can not use any of the gear I bought now..MBox mini, $400 mic, software, nor can I even work on songs that I had.
X recording songwriter Musician SOL. |
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Re: Mavericks Clean install. PT LE8 user. What files to transfer?
you can use you mini http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/d...2-Mini-Drivers
save for the upgrade or look for a safe used license (you will need an iLok v2) or download Reaper for free and use your mini and mic
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Re: Mavericks Clean install. PT LE8 user. What files to transfer?
Accepted, no harm done :)
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Well well. I have dusted off my old Tascam 2488. Good thing I kept that rig. So I have that on one side of the table ready to roll. I'm not ignoring the advice of VRM, Craig, Freak, and all of you pros. But for now....
Before I ask my 2 questions below, possibly I have not made it clear that I have not yet tried re-loading my PT CDs since the Mcubed (Maverick Major Muck up). On the other side of the table are 2 Protools CDs; 1) Version 8.0.4 PRO Tools LE8 Installer, and the Audio Loops and Sounds CD (everything is also on 2 backup drives I had before the MMM). Also I have a ToonTrack EZ Drummer CD which makes me more nervous. Like a suicidal contemplater, I sit on the edge, contemplating plugging the LE8 CD in. Based on forums I read, some people CAN use LE8 with Mavericks, but can not delete it from their system. That would be ok. If I can get any attention back here i'd ask the following then.... 1) What is going to happen when I try to load the installer disk? Will it work? 2) If I were going to upgrade PT, is this what I have to do? I mean first re-load my disk LE8, then download an upgrade? Thanks. |
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Re: Mavericks Clean install. PT LE8 user. What files to transfer?
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I would not recommend to go the Mavericks/LE8 route! Almost any people who tried this ran into lots of troubles which messed up their systems finally. IF you would decide to upgrade to 11 you should not install LE8 first but just go to your Avid account, download the latest PT11 installer and run this on your Mac. Then install the latest MBox 2 Mini-driver and after that install the appropriate PT11/Mavericks-drivers/software for all your other software applications like EZ Drummer etc. But to get back to the quote above. If it´s simply too much bucks for the upgrade at the moment which is absolutely understandable as 400.- is not "nothing" I remembered something different which could be very suitable for this situation. As you said you got Mavericks, haven´t you? If you have bought Mavericks regularly you are eligible to download, install and use Garageband FOR FREE from the Apple store. In former days this was some beginners-software with which you could not do any kind of serious work. But with the latest version it has evolved to an absolutely nice and useful little DAW with which you just can do good things. And it´s FREE as you have Mavericks! As I saw on their website today they even has integrated Logic´s "ingenious" Drummer function in Garageband which is one simply amazing drum app. https://www.apple.com/mac/garageband/ As Craig suggested you just could put the Pro Tools thing to "Bypass", download and install the new Garageband (where you also can use the AU-versions of all your existing plugins and VIs), transfer your audio- and midifiles to it and go on working on your projects using your MBox 2 Mini as an audio interface with the latest Mavericks-driver. As a sideline you could save money for a PT upgrade and even a more recent audio interface in the future (as your Mini will become legacy hardware soon for sure). There are more and more new, affordable Thunderbolt-audio interfaces on the market which will be the appropriate stuff to work with recent Macs, Mavericks etc. and Pro Tools 11/12 etc. e.g. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TAC2/ (Zoom is going to release 4 and 8 channel versions of it later that year) Found a first review and listening test on YT for this (can be heard from 5:00min to the end) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQTrHu6-1yM Just as an example. There for sure will many other affordable Thunderbolt audio interfaces be released within the next 2 years. So now using the new, free Garageband with your MBox 2 Mini and saving money to upgrade your Pro Tools and your audio interface later could be an interesting option IMO. Particularly if you are on a very tight budget at the moment. And it´s easy and safe just to try out if theoretically Garageband and the Mini will work together as you easily can install on and deinstall Garageband from your system via the Mac app store and you only will have to install the 10.3.3 MBox 2 Mini driver. http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/d...2-Mini-Drivers Then import any audio file into Garageband and do some additional recordings for about 4-8 bars. If that may work, if you may get your playback properly out of the monitors via the Mini and could lay down some stuff at a decent low latency level, you could just use it now. Why not? And it will cost you not even a penny to try this out. ;-) Anyway the best of luck to you, VRW MacMini i7Quad, 16GB Ram, MBP Mid 2012 2,5GHz i5, 16GB Ram, MacOS 10.9.3, Apogee Quartet+Duet 2, Genelec Active, Yamaha NS10, Pro Tools 11.1.3, Logic 10.0.7, Waves, MCDSP, Duende Native, Softube, HOFA, IK Multimedia etc. |
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Re: Mavericks Clean install. PT LE8 user. What files to transfer?
Just so it's mentioned: in addition to VRW's excellent suggestions, you have the option to partition a harddisk if you don't have one spare, and install a good combination of Mac OS and Pro tools LE on it, and you boot from it whenever you want to work in PT. It has many advantages, not least when it comes to avoiding conflicts between PT and other parts of the system.
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Re: Mavericks Clean install. PT LE8 user. What files to transfer?
O VRW, Ben, my eyes are spinning like the Maverick’s wheel….not the kind of Maverick i’ve been in B4, which actually goes.
First, I thanks very much, esp VRW for the sprawling explanationS, but also JFreak, Craig, Huzzam, Southside. So I won’t throw my LE CD into the spinning Mavericks wheel then. And as VRW reads, with limited budget i gotta head new directions for now. The other thing that is important, i just spent 6 years in China, the last 2 with my purchase of PT LE. I got that BCause the Tascam 2488 was starting to get same serious bad looks at airport checkins….strangely though, JFK was the smoothest…they just dust ‘er with that feather duster for whatever…gun powder check i guess, and say “go ahead, and, by the way, what is that contraption??”. Back on track here…so i got the PT and mini bcause easy to take on planes, and to lug around. As it turned out…i loved the superior quality of PT. But here, the other part of the story is, i came back to canada to do a PhD in Environmental Psychology….meaning, my 12 hours a day in China to record, went to nearly zero hours. So buying PT just wont pay, and i only got about 12 songs done on the PT 8 in those 2 years. Yes VRW, I have a 2009 macbook, so got the free Mavericks, just by the skin of a drum. I avoided it till april this year, after final exams. Maybe this macbook will be what i use if i go back to PT in a year or so and after i have to buy a new mac (or go back to windows). And for now, i didn’t download the garageband last week, but that sounds like my best option for now, unemployed broke student and all. Surely it will beat the elevator drums on the Tascam 2488. And sounds like i could squeak another year or so outta the MBox mini. Ben, last summer i got 2 Seagate backups, a 2T and a 3T. But im not that great figuring out how to use systems. The mac is only with me since China 2008 bcause just too many China internet virus. I don’t know about this partition stuff…or how to use the extra drive. And I just spent 2 years becomming comfortable with PT….now that investment in learning…welll not wasted a guess, …anyways, But…wait a minute now. Are you saying I could use the 3 or 2 T Seagate as an independent drive for all the PT software and reload the Mountain Lion (maybe its even already there as i haven’t even dared plugging the 2 Seagates in since downloading Marericks). IF what I say is possible, if that is what you mean, and i actually got that idea to work, does it mean that while recording and working with songs, I’d be working directly off the Seagate drive? If so wouldn’t that increase latency?….From the USB of the Mini into the mac, and back and forth on the Seagate USB (this mac has 2 usb)? Well people, thanks again anyways eh. |
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